I just don’t understand what makes Nazi idiology attractive to so many people. If I had to guess, I’d say for their “foot soldiers” it might be the strange “logic” of this obtuse ideology that allows people to say: “I’m better than you in every way” - without giving any reasons whatsoever and therefore even if the people in question have nothing at all to show for themselfs. In case of their leaders, the only ones that actually profit, I do kinda understand: It’s plain and simple unscrupulous lust for power and influence. In both cases: uncivilized and disgusting.
They like to fantasize about killing people they don’t like, and while normal people react to this with horror, other Nazis applaud and encourage them.
Never underestimate group membership and sense of belonging. Add a dash of getting to feel superior to others and seeing a what they think is a solution to what they think are the cause of their woes (i.e. minorities, jews, oddly-shaped rocks, etc.) is a powerful lure (even if those “problems” aren’t actual problems, but they have successfully been fooled into so thinking).
Aesthetically and in philosophy I had sympathies at some point.
To me personally it was the fact that large parts of humanity already carry that ideology. Like people pretty normal about very Nazi things when those are not called Nazi, who’d pretend to be so virtuous and judgemental when someone touches Nazi stuff more openly. And about crimes not unique to Nazis. And other formalism.
So it was just “the world around us is Nazi anyway, and referencing that directly is more honest than what they do”. I care more about preventing and defeating evil, and do more to those ends, than people running around judging and exposing others. And I don’t like hypocrisy.
that allows people to say: “I’m better than you in every way” - without giving any reasons whatsoever
You don’t need permission to consider yourself better than some other person, nor to add any reasons. Neither do they, but if you really consider yourself better, why would you care? If they really consider themselves better, why would they care? Your and their rights remain the same.
So pride is not a bad thing.
The conflict here arises only with people without dignity, who consider your pride a violation of their personal space somehow. Or that if you are better than someone, you have right to rob them and kill them. Where I live many poor people are like this, sadly. But it doesn’t mean this perception is acceptable.
Which leads us to the point that this perception is exactly how real Nazi-like movements exist. It’s people who want to find an excuse to rob and kill others. Thus they look for any sign that they are better and can do that. They are also cowardly and always seek for some power to back them. Be it real or imagined.
This is also why they like conspiracy theories - every visible conspiracy theory they throw at others has an invisible counterbalance, the conspiracy theory they imagine of the power behind themselves or one they are trying to create. It’s projection.
As you may have noticed, this is something very loosely connected to ideologies. There are many such people with Communist views too, not only Nazi, for example. It’s just people who think that robbing and killing is the only way to gain something.
It stems from poverty and lack of opportunities for honest personal development. You might have heard the saying that “poverty is a mental disorder”? What I’m describing is the subset of poverty that is not a result of real mental disorders. ND people usually don’t think the way I’ve described, and they usually have impaired social connectivity, while this inclination for violence as explanation is something typical for people whose only strong side is social connectivity.
Of course not all such people are poor, just those I’ve met were.
What I really wanted to say is that genuine pride does not fuel this ideology, it’s the opposite.
Imagine being just the worst fat and ugly white man.
Then you learn there are people who will lie to you that you’re better and more handsome than even the most handsome of anyone of another ethnicity.
Idk that’s just my guess, as I’ve never had feelings like that, but a lot of the neonazis I knew of were ugly af and even if they weren’t, they thought they were.
So essentially Nazism and the like prey on unhealthy psyches, as there’s nothing they could appeal to in a healthy one.
In case of their leaders, the only ones that actually profit, I do kinda understand: It’s plain and simple unscrupulous lust for power and influence.
The leaders and vanguard of fascism are typically small capitalists; they’ve been privileged by society, but at the same time they’re victim of the whim of the markets. Such people will never believe the problem is capitalism, since that system rewarded them so much, so they’ll grasp at other solutions, such as jews for not doing capitalism correctly, or some vague moral degeneration, or communist saboteurs, or some combination thereof.
Look at the makeup of jan 6ers. There’s trade shows with fewer car dealership owners.
I just don’t understand what makes Nazi idiology attractive to so many people. If I had to guess, I’d say for their “foot soldiers” it might be the strange “logic” of this obtuse ideology that allows people to say: “I’m better than you in every way” - without giving any reasons whatsoever and therefore even if the people in question have nothing at all to show for themselfs. In case of their leaders, the only ones that actually profit, I do kinda understand: It’s plain and simple unscrupulous lust for power and influence. In both cases: uncivilized and disgusting.
They like to fantasize about killing people they don’t like, and while normal people react to this with horror, other Nazis applaud and encourage them.
So if everyone claims to be a Nazi they would stop being Nazis/j
Never underestimate group membership and sense of belonging. Add a dash of getting to feel superior to others and seeing a what they think is a solution to what they think are the cause of their woes (i.e. minorities, jews, oddly-shaped rocks, etc.) is a powerful lure (even if those “problems” aren’t actual problems, but they have successfully been fooled into so thinking).
Aesthetically and in philosophy I had sympathies at some point.
To me personally it was the fact that large parts of humanity already carry that ideology. Like people pretty normal about very Nazi things when those are not called Nazi, who’d pretend to be so virtuous and judgemental when someone touches Nazi stuff more openly. And about crimes not unique to Nazis. And other formalism.
So it was just “the world around us is Nazi anyway, and referencing that directly is more honest than what they do”. I care more about preventing and defeating evil, and do more to those ends, than people running around judging and exposing others. And I don’t like hypocrisy.
You don’t need permission to consider yourself better than some other person, nor to add any reasons. Neither do they, but if you really consider yourself better, why would you care? If they really consider themselves better, why would they care? Your and their rights remain the same.
So pride is not a bad thing.
The conflict here arises only with people without dignity, who consider your pride a violation of their personal space somehow. Or that if you are better than someone, you have right to rob them and kill them. Where I live many poor people are like this, sadly. But it doesn’t mean this perception is acceptable.
Which leads us to the point that this perception is exactly how real Nazi-like movements exist. It’s people who want to find an excuse to rob and kill others. Thus they look for any sign that they are better and can do that. They are also cowardly and always seek for some power to back them. Be it real or imagined.
This is also why they like conspiracy theories - every visible conspiracy theory they throw at others has an invisible counterbalance, the conspiracy theory they imagine of the power behind themselves or one they are trying to create. It’s projection.
As you may have noticed, this is something very loosely connected to ideologies. There are many such people with Communist views too, not only Nazi, for example. It’s just people who think that robbing and killing is the only way to gain something.
It stems from poverty and lack of opportunities for honest personal development. You might have heard the saying that “poverty is a mental disorder”? What I’m describing is the subset of poverty that is not a result of real mental disorders. ND people usually don’t think the way I’ve described, and they usually have impaired social connectivity, while this inclination for violence as explanation is something typical for people whose only strong side is social connectivity.
Of course not all such people are poor, just those I’ve met were.
What I really wanted to say is that genuine pride does not fuel this ideology, it’s the opposite.
Imagine being just the worst fat and ugly white man.
Then you learn there are people who will lie to you that you’re better and more handsome than even the most handsome of anyone of another ethnicity.
Idk that’s just my guess, as I’ve never had feelings like that, but a lot of the neonazis I knew of were ugly af and even if they weren’t, they thought they were.
So essentially Nazism and the like prey on unhealthy psyches, as there’s nothing they could appeal to in a healthy one.
The leaders and vanguard of fascism are typically small capitalists; they’ve been privileged by society, but at the same time they’re victim of the whim of the markets. Such people will never believe the problem is capitalism, since that system rewarded them so much, so they’ll grasp at other solutions, such as jews for not doing capitalism correctly, or some vague moral degeneration, or communist saboteurs, or some combination thereof.
Look at the makeup of jan 6ers. There’s trade shows with fewer car dealership owners.