• rdri@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Steam DRM is nothing like stuff people should be aware of. Ask any modder for confirmation.

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      3 months ago

      Modder here. Denuvo has absolutely no effect on modding. Steam DRM checks the integrity of the executable and also crashes on breakpoints. That said, it’s easy to remove with Steamless. Memory hacks work fine.

      Edit: However, Space Marine 2 is going to use EAC, which is a kernel-level anti-cheat which prevents any modding short of utilizing or creating private hacks that may involve rogue system drivers.

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        3 months ago

        Hard disagree on denuvo. If it’s no problem for you then you must have tons of experience in re. Which puts you into some 1%-ish group. Depends on the type of mods you do of course.

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          3 months ago

          I do have the experience but if you attach a debugger to a non-Denuvo or a Denuvo game, then have any hacker/modder come into the room and look at the code, manipulate it or inject new code, they won’t notice the difference or face any obstacles.

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        3 months ago

        Dammit, EAC may be an issue on Linux though. It’s kinda hit or miss whether a given developer will take the extra steps, particularly given the conflicting sources on just how complex it actually is. According to Valve, it’s a checkbox and dropping a file in your depot. Others claim it would require an Epic Online Services version of EAC, with all the baggage that carries, including potentially rewriting a whole chunk of your code.

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      3 months ago

      Of course. Doesn’t mean its not nice to be able to avoid it though. Personally, it will have no real impact on my purchasing decision, but the less DRM, the better.

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      3 months ago

      Not that I would know, but you definitely can’t remove it with a single piece of software

      Edit: /s