I’m a big proponent of enjoying life, rather than trying to extend it as much as possible. I ride a motorcycle in part because it’s cheaper on a day-to-day basis, but also it’s just more fun than being stuck in a car.
Why would i want to live longer if it meant that I had to give up cheese?
Yes, things that taste good are usually not good for you. But provided you maintain your physical condition otherwise, why insist on denying yourself all the enjoyment life has to offer?
I have coconut cheese that tastes just as good. That’s a false notion that plant-based food always tastes worse as there are always good and bad options.
Indeed. It’s very motivated reasoning. But I strongly, very strongly suspect that if you ran a deeply unethical blind taste test, and had vegans sample both plant-based cheeses and milk-based cheeses, even life-long vegans would end up selecting milk-based cheeses as superior based on flavor and texture.
Can I prove it without running an unethical–and potential dangerous–blind taste test? No.
OTOH, Impossible hamburgers are very good, and quite close to the flavor and texture of regular hamburger. They’re not quite perfect if you prefer your hamburgers medium rare, but that’s not the way most people eat a hamburger.
They really are. My comparison is trying multiple vegan restaurants/foods when my kid was allergic to dairy. I’m so happy he grew out of it and cheese is a big reason why. At least with the milk substitutes, while they don’t resemble milk they taste pretty good in their own right. Not cheese though.
I’m a big proponent of enjoying life, rather than trying to extend it as much as possible. I ride a motorcycle in part because it’s cheaper on a day-to-day basis, but also it’s just more fun than being stuck in a car.
Why would i want to live longer if it meant that I had to give up cheese?
Yes, things that taste good are usually not good for you. But provided you maintain your physical condition otherwise, why insist on denying yourself all the enjoyment life has to offer?
Up voted not because I agree or disagree with your perspective, but because I understand and respect your perspective
Me too, about everyone enjoying life, not just humans while others suffer in factory farms and die in gas chambers.
I have coconut cheese that tastes just as good. That’s a false notion that plant-based food always tastes worse as there are always good and bad options.
When I was a vegan I really believed that cashew cheese was as good as dairy cheese. I needed to believe it.
Indeed. It’s very motivated reasoning. But I strongly, very strongly suspect that if you ran a deeply unethical blind taste test, and had vegans sample both plant-based cheeses and milk-based cheeses, even life-long vegans would end up selecting milk-based cheeses as superior based on flavor and texture.
Can I prove it without running an unethical–and potential dangerous–blind taste test? No.
OTOH, Impossible hamburgers are very good, and quite close to the flavor and texture of regular hamburger. They’re not quite perfect if you prefer your hamburgers medium rare, but that’s not the way most people eat a hamburger.
I have had it.
It is not ‘just as good’.
I have multiple vegan cheeses.
They’re not bad, but it’s not even close to as good as fresh Wisconsin cheese curds, or an aged Romano Pecorino.
They really are. My comparison is trying multiple vegan restaurants/foods when my kid was allergic to dairy. I’m so happy he grew out of it and cheese is a big reason why. At least with the milk substitutes, while they don’t resemble milk they taste pretty good in their own right. Not cheese though.
That is subjective.
I’m allergic to coconut and soy…
Well, that’s the great thing about plant-based milks you can make cheese out of oats, almonds and cashews.