• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?

    The “instance part” is absolutely huge. If I wanted to, I could go start a /c/lemmyshitpost on SDF Lemmy [1] with a completely new set of rules [2], particularly a set of rules that possibly would violate Lemmy.world’s TOS or possibly even the law in Lemmy.world’s jurisdiction, but not SDF’s or their jurisdiction’s laws.

    It’s not a big deal for the average user until the day you run afoul of the server admins.

    [1] As of writing this, SDF does not have a /c/lemmyshitpost.

    [2] I’m not interested in doing that lol, this is just a hypothetical. I’m annoyed at this most recent decision but nowhere near ready to leave over it.

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      3 months ago

      yeah but when people go to add communities they ignore the little one with 3 followers when there’s a comm with the same name that has 3000.

      Is like saying oh you don’t like your local librarians? you’re free to make your own library!

      Okay well being free to do something doesn’t magically make it a real option. The truth is whatever comm gets the biggest following first is the one everyone goes to. Are there even any exceptions to that that aren’t entire communities agreeing to move together off instances?

      For literally the entire time I have been on lemmy I have heard laments about the centralization of comms on lemmy.world and seen attempts to mitigate it but every pie chart just shows lemmy.world with more of the pie because growing a comm on small servers isn’t simple!

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        3 months ago

        Is like saying oh you don’t like your local librarians? you’re free to make your own library!

        I’m probably being pedantic here but you kinda can, e.g. Little Free Libraries, although the reason isn’t “my local librarians suck”, it’s closer to “more libraries please”.

        Okay well being free to do something doesn’t magically make it a real option.

        Agreed, but I fail to see how, with enough consent from the user base, how moving to another existing server is not an option.

        Are there even any exceptions to that that aren’t entire communities agreeing to move together off instances?

        I’m not aware of any off the top of my head, but it absolutely does not seem implausible that we could move this community if the need arises. Entire communities moved off of Reddit during the boycott; I don’t see why we can’t do that again within the platform if the need arises. For the most part people are okay with the moderation here, as am I, but the minute that changes people will flee somewhere else.

        For literally the entire time I have been on lemmy I have heard laments about the centralization of comms on lemmy.world and seen attempts to mitigate it but every pie chart just shows lemmy.world with more of the pie because growing a comm on small servers isn’t simple!

        Hard agree there. I’m not sure how to fix it.