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      Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.

      I’m not interested in what content you are interested in. You (Edit: Not even you, gravitas_deficiency. Why even interject as if you were the person I replied to?) made a comment regarding blocking Threads content for everyone. Let everyone decide for themselves which accounts to follow, don’t promote not to federate at all just because you personally don’t want to follow accounts there. Just don’t click the follow button, duh.

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        Go to some junk instance that’s willing to federate if you want.

        Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.

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          Go to some junk instance that’s willing to federate if you want.

          The Mastodon instance I use already does and absolutely nothing negatively happened to it. Mastodon users can just block entire instances on their own if they happen to not like any content from there.

          Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.

          That’s based on conspiracy theories and not an actually informed decision based on how the Fediverse works. Most of you don’t even understand that Threads content wouldn’t even show up on Lemmy in the first place. Threads doesn’t even have communities.

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            Because Facebook hasn’t done anything yet.

            Blocking Facebook as a user is not good enough. Any server that connects to them legitimizes them and is not acceptable behavior.

            It absolute is not a conspiracy, and most people unwilling to participate in any server that interacts with Facebook in any way are doing so exactly because they understand the technology and Facebook’s history. Literally everything Facebook has ever touched turned to dogshit. “I won’t participate in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook” is not the naive, uninformed position. (That’s using Facebook and their other platforms.) It’s the people who recognize how pure fucking evil Facebook is.

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              Because Facebook hasn’t done anything yet.

              And they cannot circumvent to ActivityPub protocol to display ads to users who don’t want so see them. Claiming otherwise is conspiracy theories.

              Blocking Facebook as a user is not good enough

              Yes, it is.

              Any server that connects to them legitimizes them and is not acceptable behavior.

              That’s not for you to decide.

              It absolute is not a conspiracy

              It absolutely is.

              and most people unwilling to participate in any server that interacts with Facebook in any way

              First: That’s untrue.

              Second: Such an opinion is based on conspiracy theories and therefore not valid.

              are doing so exactly because they understand the technology

              No, they and you don’t.

              “I won’t participate in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook” is not the naive, uninformed position.

              Yes, it is and you don’t even realize that you are participatin in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook Threads right now. That’s proof enough that you don’t understand the technology.

              It’s the people who recognize how pure fucking evil Facebook is.

              Then allowing ad-free access to accounts hosted there should be your agenda. That’s how they don’t get money, not by pushing people to sign up for their platform, just because they want to follow their favorite movie franchise or sports team.

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                Yes, it is and you don’t even realize that you are participatin in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook Threads right now. That’s proof enough that you don’t understand the technology.

                https://sh.itjust.works/instances lists threads.net under the blocked instances list, not everyone is using lemmy.world. Inform yourself before accusing others of making uninformed statements.

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                  https://sh.itjust.works/instances lists threads.net under the blocked instances list, not everyone is using lemmy.world. Inform yourself before accusing others of making uninformed statements.

                  But you’re in an lemmy.word-hosted community right now, interacting with me who has a LW account, so you’re participating on a platform that’s federating with Threads. That’s like claiming not to participate with anything Google while mailing these claims to GMail addresses. You’re participating. You just don’t know how ActivityPub works and that’s why you think that being on any Fediverse server that didn’t explicitly block Threads would result in sposored posts from Threads magically showing up. You’re a conspiracy theorist.

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                    You very obviously do not understand how the blocklist works so here’s a very practical example:

                    ani.social is blocked by lemmy.ml.

                    Here is a post on lemmy.world containing comments by users from ani.social: https://lemmy.world/post/18538115

                    Here is that same post on lemmy.ml, which has blocked ani.social: https://lemmy.ml/post/19043133

                    Note the absence of any comment made by a user on ani.social. As far as users on lemmy.ml are concerned ani.social does not exist (as of 10 months ago, some existing content before then can still be viewed). I think you don’t know how ActivityPub works and calling me a conspiracy theorist won’t change that.

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                yes, it is

                It absolutely is

                No, they and you don’t

                What great arguments you have. Really gonna convince people with that.

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                  What great arguments you have.

                  Yes, I have, you just chose not to quote any of them. Threads cannot push ads to Mastodon users who don’t want to see them. Mastoton users can subscribe to brand accounts who then may make promotional posts but again: Threads cannot push any of those to users as ads. That’s simply not how ActivityPub works. I explained this countless times already. Certain people just aren’t interested in facts and choose to quote selectively as if those arguments were never made. That’s dishonest.

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        Pardon my generalization, but literally no one is interested in threads

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        I’m not interested in what content you are interested in.

        Yes, this is the kind of thing a terminally boring person says.

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      9/10 of the most followed accounts on Fedi are on Threads, so you may not, but clearly many many people do.

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      Most people want social media to read and talk about the mundane things that are interesting to them (like sports, or their hobbies, or some new cool bar they want to go on, or some interesting places to travel) instead of using it to doomscroll and display outrage.

      If all you want from social media is a place that constantly keeps you anxious and reminds you of how little power you have to change the things you are so pointless worrying about… then sure, Lemmy is more than enough as it is.

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        Most people want social media to read and talk about the mundane things that are interesting to them (like sports, or their hobbies, or some new cool bar they want to go on, or some interesting places to travel)…

        Hey, more evidence that most people aren’t worth talking to, nice.

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          You were so eager to come up with a jab at other people that you seem to have ignored the second paragraph. It is pretty clear that you could benefit from a bit of introspection to look what you could offer to the world, instead of just trying to put everyone down.

          Wishing you well.