• Stamets@lemmy.worldOP
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    The English language still backs it up. If you fall, you are falling. Simply because there is an ing missing from the text of a thing not said in the joke doesnā€™t mean that the joke doesnā€™t work. On top of that thereā€™s the whole part of how the DM is God in a game, not the DMG or the rule book.

    You didnā€™t ruin anything. Just weirdly pedantic for no reason

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      Weirdly pedantic is fun sometimes, and Iā€™d say especially so with D&D 5e rules that often are very poorly worded.

      Damage taken from being the Fall season would be called ā€œFall damageā€ in English though. It is not a verb that you did, it is a noun that is. You are not falling. It is fall. Falling is only from a present tense verb of fall.

      Sorry to be more pedantic.

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        Damage taken from being the Fall season would be called ā€œFall damageā€ in English though.

        If Iā€™m in a fight, Iā€™m fighting. If Iā€™m on a walk, Iā€™m walking. On a hike? Hiking. If Iā€™m at a party, Iā€™m partying. If thereā€™s rain in the air, itā€™s raining. If Iā€™m applying butter to my toast, Iā€™m buttering my toast. If Iā€™m on a boat, Iā€™m boating. If Iā€™m in the middle of a fall, Iā€™m falling.

        Is it hard to understand that someone is referring to the act of entering Fall (or being in the middle of Fall) when they call it ā€œfalling?ā€

        Regardless of whether you find that difficult to understand or to accept, itā€™s a well-established linguistic phenomenon known as ā€œverbification.ā€

        You are not falling. It is fall. Falling is only from a present tense verb of fall.

        Youā€™re wrong on several counts.

        First, you donā€™t suffer ā€œfalling damageā€ from falling. You suffer it from landing after falling (refer to page 183 of the PHB if you donā€™t believe me). However, casting Feather Fall is a reaction that you can take when you or another creature ā€œfalls,ā€ so it was appropriate to cast it at the start of the season.

        Second, ā€œfallingā€ is not the present tense of ā€œfall.ā€ The simple present tense of ā€œfallā€ is ā€œfallā€ or ā€œfalls,ā€ but other ā€œpresent tensesā€ include: the present perfect simple (ā€œHe has fallenā€), present progressive/continuous, and present perfect progressive.

        ā€œFallingā€ is the present participle, and it can be used both as an adjective (ā€œThe falling bardā€) and as part of the past continuous/progress (ā€œThe bard was fallingā€), present continuous/progressive (ā€œThe bard is fallingā€), and future continuous/progressive (ā€œThe bard will be fallingā€) verb tenses, as well as with their perfect variants (had been falling, has been falling, will have been falling).

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          If Iā€™m in a fight, Iā€™m fighting. If Iā€™m on a walk, Iā€™m walking. On a hike? Hiking. If Iā€™m at a party, Iā€™m partying. If thereā€™s rain in the air, itā€™s raining. If Iā€™m applying butter to my toast, Iā€™m buttering my toast. If Iā€™m on a boat, Iā€™m boating. If Iā€™m in the middle of a fall, Iā€™m falling.

          Everything before fall was a verb. If youā€™re in a pool, you arenā€™t pooling. If youā€™re in a car you arenā€™t caring. If youā€™re in spring you arenā€™t springing. (We do have words for summering and wintering, but theyā€™re actions you take, not just being in the season.)

          Is it hard to understand that someone is referring to the act of entering Fall (or being in the middle of Fall) when they call it ā€œfalling?ā€

          I get the joke. I was trying to make another joke by being pedantic, but now youā€™re doing this. That is not how the English language works. You do not say your doing an action when you enter a season. You are entering Fall, but you arenā€™t Falling. You are not doing something.

          First, you donā€™t suffer ā€œfalling damageā€ from falling. You suffer it from landing after falling.

          The damage is caused by the speed built up during the fall. Regardless, thatā€™s the word we use in English for it usually, but it could be called landing damage. Anyway, falling damage is calculated by the distance of the fall, so this Fall has no distance so if we decide to call it falling damage anyway and follow those rules itā€™s zero damage.

          However, casting Feather Fall is a reaction that you can take when you or another creature ā€œfalls,ā€ so it was appropriate to cast it at the start of the season.

          Correct. I have no issue in how the action was taken, unless he was supposed to be unaware of it.

          ā€œFallingā€ is the present participle, and it can be used both as an adjective (ā€œThe falling bardā€) and as part of the past continuous/progress (ā€œThe bard was fallingā€), present continuous/progressive (ā€œThe bard is fallingā€), and future continuous/progressive (ā€œThe bard will be fallingā€) verb tenses, as well as with their perfect variants (had been falling, has been falling, will have been falling).

          This is correct. Is this countering something I said or agreeing?

          OK, this was too long of a reply for a stupid joke to a stupid jokeā€¦

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        Since we have all decided to be pedantic, ā€˜fallingā€™ is not the past tense of ā€˜fallā€™.

        Its like a participle or gerund or some shit that means it is happening now. edit either I misread or original message was edited. Regardless others have thoroughly beaten me at being pedantic.

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          It should tell you if itā€™s edited with an asterisk and it should say when the edit happened. I didnā€™t edit the message though. It always said it was present tense.