Airbnb host adds ‘no crypto mining’ rule after tenant installs 10 rigs
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Airbnb owner Ashley said the guest ran up a $1,500 electricity bill and also installed an electric vehicle charging point.
  • AlecSadler@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    55·
    3 months ago

    $100k in 3wks with 10 rigs using standard power outlets at an AirBnB?

    I’m dubious.

    I totally believe they did this, but I question profitability. The power use alone would be much higher than $1500.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      3 months ago

      A typical house may have a 200amp service. That would equate to about 2400 24000 watts at typical 120v (the voltage consumer computers use).

      What’s the math on wattage-to-bitcoin (assuming ideal and average system capabilities)?

      I don’t know enough to know where to start.

      Edit: I dropped a zero on the watts

      • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
        8·
        3 months ago

        “dogshit (with a side extremely-maybe lucky once)”?

        you can only fit so much computation on some amount of power, and that’s also highly influenced by type/execution of the computation involved

        the “extremely-maybe”: I’m extremely not going to bother even attempting to calculate the present statistical likelihood of being block reward winner (I can, and will, do better things with my time), but ito total computation possible from rando airbnb-miner vs structural-miner configuration it’s just super fucking unlikely

        I don’t know enough to know where to start.

        easy: skip even trying. you, too, have better things to do with your time

        • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          3 months ago

          I’ve mined before and this isn’t how it works. I was mining dogecoin in 2014 or so (before Elon hyped it and it was just a joke). You join a “mining pool” where a bunch of people group their processing power together. It keeps track of how much processing each member contributes, and when the mining pool group is awarded a block then it’s split up proportionally based on each member’s contribution.

          Clearly that was a while ago so I’m a little out of the loop and there might be new developments. And if someone had enough processing power conceivably they could go it alone, but I’m not sure how prevalent it is. Probably not enough for an Airbnb miner.

          As far as how profitable it is, I would bet that $100k figure is pretty inaccurate. It was a while ago but when I was mining I was tracking my electricity costs vs the value of the coins I had mined and it didn’t last more than a few months. It no longer made sense because the “mining difficulty” went up, which meant power cost too much. So it’s not entirely easy money, you need to minimize your electric costs as much as possible, as well as cost of your mining equipment.

          Miners will buy dedicated hardware made specifically for mining crypto so their margins may be better, but $100k even assuming no power costs and renting an Airbnb seems very high.

          • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
            6·
            3 months ago

            I’ve mined before and this isn’t how it works

            Clearly that was a while ago so I’m a little out of the loop

            you are not tall enough for this ride

                • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  12·
                  3 months ago

                  I’m not advocating for mining crypto. I understood the commenter above me to be (rudely) saying I wasn’t qualified to comment on whether this Airbnb scammer could have made the profit they claimed. (“You’re not tall enough for this ride”)

                  But that same commenter didn’t seem to be aware that with a mining pool you don’t have to single handedly win a block in order to make a profit.

                  It’s still wasteful and unsustainable.

          • David Gerard@awful.systemsOPMEnglish
            4·
            3 months ago

            so this is about right, and after this year’s halving it’s even worse

            many bitcoin rigs don’t hit a single block in their lifetime

            so I would guess the crypto bro in this case maybe got something as part of a large pool, but i really doubt he hit big

      • AlecSadler@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        I may be behind on the times, but I’m pretty sure an expensive 200ish terahash setup will consume ~3500W.

        To make $100k in 3wks you’d need to be doing like 40,000 terahash (ignoring electric costs). Probably 80,000+ accounting for electricity?

        Someone please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

      • cerothem@lemmy.caEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        Homes in North America are actually split phase 240v so it would actually be 240v * 200 or 48,000w. Not that I’m here to say you’re wrong for your primary point, but the incoming supply is a 200amp fuse per leg (120v to neutral, 240. Leg to leg), with any imbalance returning though the neutral line.

      • Dave.English
        3·
        3 months ago

        200 amps x 120 volts is actually 24kW.

        But that’s still not enough to mine any appreciable amount of crypto in that time period.

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Thanks for the correction, guess I forgot a zero! Lol

          (Not sure how I let that slip, should’ve been obvious, 2400w is space heater territory on a 20amp circuit).

  • femtech@midwest.socialEnglish
    25·
    3 months ago

    The reminds me I need to ask the Airbnb I’m going to if I can charge my car at their place.

  • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
    22·
    3 months ago

    The real move is to do this with an “illegal” airbnb sublet, that way you can add landlords to the fight.

    Also you should start an extermination company and cook meth as well, like in breaking bad, so you can also have meth cartels in the mix.

  • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    3 months ago

    Hahaha, I love seeing AirBnB getting owned like this. Too bad it was the homeowner who got screwed, and not AirBnB.