That’s fair, it could be a leak, but given the email from “Robert” (or was it Richard? Something with an R, I’d have to check) implied it was illegally obtained. An “oopsie leak” wouldn’t be a problem to publish if discovered.
But I will agree, it’s still an assumption that it was from phishing.
Sure, I think we are on the same page. I’m just reminding all (because I struggle with the barrage as well) that when we say “implied” here, what we are actually saying is “implied by trump”. Would be great if we always spelled that out deliberately, but again, the firehose/gish gallop from trump and co-conspirators makes that (intentionally) hard. They rely on us eventually seeing the word “implied” and naturally assuming, “implied by law enforcement” or some other known authority and not by a many times convicted felon (known almost exclusivity for ceaseless and unapologetic public fraud).
The “implied” part in the previous comment was the anonymous email from an AOL account which provided the information, and regarding Iran, that was implied by the Trump Campaign. Because I also used “implied” and don’t want to muddy the waters further…
Yeah, it’s ridiculous how much care can need to be taken in explaining something that should be straightforward, just due to the mess of implications and assumptions, and who it’s coming from.
Feels like the AOL email address is the oddest part - it is just so weird and stuck in the 90s that it truly feels like trump… Man, woman, camera, tv, AOL.
That’s fair, it could be a leak, but given the email from “Robert” (or was it Richard? Something with an R, I’d have to check) implied it was illegally obtained. An “oopsie leak” wouldn’t be a problem to publish if discovered.
But I will agree, it’s still an assumption that it was from phishing.
Sure, I think we are on the same page. I’m just reminding all (because I struggle with the barrage as well) that when we say “implied” here, what we are actually saying is “implied by trump”. Would be great if we always spelled that out deliberately, but again, the firehose/gish gallop from trump and co-conspirators makes that (intentionally) hard. They rely on us eventually seeing the word “implied” and naturally assuming, “implied by law enforcement” or some other known authority and not by a many times convicted felon (known almost exclusivity for ceaseless and unapologetic public fraud).
The “implied” part in the previous comment was the anonymous email from an AOL account which provided the information, and regarding Iran, that was implied by the Trump Campaign. Because I also used “implied” and don’t want to muddy the waters further…
Yeah, it’s ridiculous how much care can need to be taken in explaining something that should be straightforward, just due to the mess of implications and assumptions, and who it’s coming from.
Feels like the AOL email address is the oddest part - it is just so weird and stuck in the 90s that it truly feels like trump… Man, woman, camera, tv, AOL.
[email protected] must have been taken already :)