• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    It is not only how that label works, it’s what they tell themselves they’re doing.

    Make America Great Again. The appeal to nostalgia. To return to our supposed roots.

    They’re just, you know, idiots that don’t even know what those are, being led by fascists who know very well what part of American history they want back, and it’s not kicking Nazi ass under the New Deal.

    Well, maybe they like the racial discrimination in welfare programs part.

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      3 months ago

      it’s what they tell themselves they’re doing.

      So they’re not actually doing it. The group isn’t doing the thing which you think defines that group.

      No alien imposed fascism upon these people. They chose fascism. They are fascists. And that extreme form of conservative ideology is never about bringing anything back - that’s just the lie they tell, because it works. They plan transformative violence for unprecedented American dictatorship, and they just say it’ll be like the past, somehow.

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        3 months ago

        I’m saying they aren’t American conservatives at all, they’re just boring old fascists.

        Conservatism is a relative judgement based on politically acceptable rhetoric. Fascism is not.

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          3 months ago

          ‘But they’re not true Scotsmen.’

          My guy, fascism is absogoddamnlutely a form of conservatism. It’s what that label actually refers to… not what you’d like it to refer to.

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                  No dictionary on Earth is going to tell you that conservatives worldwide stopped being conservatives when - for some reason! - they overwhelmingly identified with fascists rising from among their ranks.

                  And if it did it would still prove you wrong, because apparently it defines fascism as whatever America was already doing. I guess they’re duty-bound to conserve that, because that’s totally how labels work. Like how leftists are against rights, and the Republican party is aligned with Wolfe Tone.