• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    animals, who feel pain, sadness, grief and fear?

    why does this matter? it reads like an appeal to emotion.

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      2 months ago

      This matters because as humans, we are empathetic to other’s existence. To not be is literally psychopathic. Most humans who watch a dog being decapitated feel bad, because they are empathetic to the animals suffering. The same is not true for a carrot being chopped, as we understand carrots do not experience the aforementioned emotions.

      The emotions are critical to the argument. If animals didn’t feel said emotions, they would be no greater than plants, and it would be morally permissible to kill and eat them.

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          Okay, given all your arguments, I knew I was talking to someone who was being facetious and arguing in bad faith, but figured, I’ve got some free time, why not refute them.

          Now I realise how much of a waste of time it was. You’re very clearly just folding your arms and going “nuh uh”. Because I know you aren’t bewilderingly simple minded. I know you aren’t catastrophically brain dead.

          So the argument “well ACTUALLY, um, carrots despite having no brain, no central nervous system, no nociceptors, um, well I think they feel pain, ergo I’m going to kill animals”, is so stupidly impotent, that you must be taking the piss.

          I’m going to block you now, so you don’t waste any of your OWN time curdling up some other trolling comments, but for your sake, the animals sake, and the planets sake, try a plant based meal every now and again!

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            carrots despite having no brain, no central nervous system, no nociceptors, um, well I think they feel pain, ergo I’m going to kill animals

            this is a strawman.

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            2 months ago

            for your sake, the animals sake, and the planets sake, try a plant based meal every now and again!

            eating a plant based meal won’t do help animals or the planet

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            2 months ago

            I knew I was talking to someone who was being facetious and arguing in bad faith

            your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith