• Pete Hahnloser@beehaw.org
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    4 months ago

    Here’s an idea: How about zero days?

    I admittedly don’t get how this is even a thing, having bought unlocked phones for prepaid service going on 14 years now. Wait for a sale on a phone, get a high-end device for like $800 (financing always available), and pay $200 once a year for service.

    It’s appalling to me that people think more than $17/month for cell service is reasonable.

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      4 months ago

      $800-$1000 up front is a whole lot of money for a lot of people. Also, where did you find a phone plan for $200 year? Asking for a friend…

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        Are you getting a discount when you buy a carrier phone on contract? Every time I’ve priced them out, the total for 24 months of payments is typically around the full MSRP of the phone. Buying direct usually results in hefty discounts since companies like Samsung always have some sort of deal going on. My parents recently got some bottom of the barrel smartphones and still wound up paying hundreds of dollars for them on contract even though you can buy them outright online for 1/3 of the price.

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        Nobody would put up with buying a car that only runs off gas from ExxonMobil, even with a discount. Nobody would buy a laptop that can only get an internet connection through Comcast. That so many people put up with locked phones are OK with this practice shows a lack of comparative analysis.

        • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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          I’ve talked to plenty of people that lease a car and a gas card that only works on certain gas stations. If there’s a discount, people will flock to that stuff. The only reason we don’t do this with cars is because the car companies can’t get it done.

          Hell, this does exist for cars: American Tesla’s only do fast charge at Tesla superchargers. The worst part is that Tesla is the only party that can build a reasonably reliable charging network, so now other brands are allowed to charge at Tesla’s excellent service.

          There’s a cultural component to it (“I’ve always bought phones from carriers, why wouldn’t I?”) but discounts do work. It’s why ad-supported phones and tablets are a thing. People will gladly get a shittier service for a discount.

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            I’m of that particular age where my memories start just after AT&T was broken up into Baby Bells (to the extent that I thought “Ma Bell” was a weird shortening of Mountain Bell). So I know we’ve been here before.

            Tesla’s not a great example, given that their connector is now a standard. Yes, it’ll take year for other charging networks to get built out, but that’s a temporary situation that’s a tech question. Cell service is not.

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        As for zero days: I doubt carriers can move that quickly without making mistakes. Two months may be a bit long,

        I think you misunderstood. This is about “after how many days on the provider’s plan” a customer is allowed to switch providers.

        In Spain, most carriers sell fully unlocked phones, even when you sign up for a multi-year plan. You can use the phone with any carrier you wish from the start, even though you still have to pay for the original plan, and cancelling it incurs a penalty equal to the prorated amount of the initial discount on the phone price (then they claim inflated “base prices” that are above what one can find at non-carrier shops, but that’s a separate issue).

        The proposal is at an early stage

        Carriers will likely have until well into Trump’s administration to make any cha… oh, right. Well, anyway, it could be a thing, “if”.