I noticed you didn’t address the segregation point.
Because I think it’s a bullshit point? How does it segregate if EVERYONE now has the option to go to a private school?
I’m not sure how that fits with what you said about parents not having enough options.
Your parents had the option… They chose to pay and put you into a public school it sounds like. But they either were shit parents… or didn’t care enough about your schooling to place you in what you believe would have been a better choice. Options doesn’t always mean people make the best choice… or that every option is worthwhile to every individual. That doesn’t mean we should take away the choice and gatekeep those choices behind “well I hope you have enough money to pay for that education out of pocket!”.
But here’s another separate point I think is worth bringing up. If public schools are losing tons of students and that’s hurting their bottom line… and now there’s not enough money to keep them going… Why not scale it back? For shits and giggles I looked up the old school district. I was way off. They have 58 (!) elementary schools. If you don’t have enough students to fill those schools… Cut them back. Instead they’re opening more… Although now at a slower timescale while cutting jobs at the same time. The logic here is wild, they’re clearly throwing boatloads of money out the window here (into buildings), but I’m supposed to care? Hell they also spent some amount of millions revamping their logos and changing school names, now that’s a pressing matter when you’re on a budget shortfall right?! None of this affected my decision to pull my daughter out of the school. I never cared to pay attention to this shit. But you can’t beg for money, be mad when people say no just to do dumb shit with the money you already have. This is the same exact premise I apply to other public assets like Police. Cops don’t need fucking military vehicles, spend that money on training instead.
The new school? They had plans to build new schools. They scrapped them completely upon seeing that enrollment wasn’t growing. They even scaled back in some areas. Oh and something I specifically omitted. The program lets you go to other public school districts (it’s not JUST private and home schooling). So a district can have a policy that you have to go to the “nearest” school, but this program lets you migrate to other districts if desired and they allow it. My kids are still in public school. In any other state without this program that ALSO wouldn’t be an option for me.
The state this year faced a $1.4 billion budget shortfall, much of which was a result of the new voucher spending, according to the Grand Canyon Institute, a local nonpartisan fiscal and economic policy think tank. Last fiscal year alone, the price tag of universal vouchers in Arizona skyrocketed from an original official estimate of just under $65 million to roughly $332 million, the Grand Canyon analysis found; another $429 million in costs is expected this year.
This article plainly states how this shit is fucked and not helping. It is a massive drag on our education budget. Please shut the fuck up if all you have to offer is anecdotal defenses to a shitty system that cost 100x more than projected. Its not good, its not helping, its fucking bad.
Oh geeze, I looked at your comments. I did get it wrong. I thought republican but you’re clearly further right. I see you defending project 2025 and saying Germany shouldn’t have made nazi salutes illegal. Ew. Blocking you.
LMFAO. If that’s what you want to take away from it, sure. I asked for exactly what part of “project2025” is fascism. And notice I didn’t get an answer… But that isn’t me defending it. It’s me asking for where they’re finding fascism. Just because I don’t follow some random claim doesn’t make me republican or even right leaning.
How about the explicit call for punishing political rivals and giving the president dictator like powers? You don’t think that’s at least a LITTLE bit fascist? Did you even read any of it?
You don’t think that’s at least a LITTLE bit fascist?
If you (or anyone) could actually point me to where it actually says that I could actually make a fucking decision on the matter. Instead all I get is that someone else said it… or completely NON-sourced at all.
Do you mean, “your ability to speak”, or “Your writing abilities”? Because your grammar isn’t exactly great for someone that wants to point at someone else’s intelligence.
Its a shame idiots like you can be weaponized against a better educated populace.
This is the funny part of all of this. ALWAYS without fail people eventually claim that I’m republican and must be stupid. Except I’m not… I’ve voted republican once in the past 20 years of being old enough to vote. And it wasn’t for Trump. And second, I hold a Masters in a highly desired STEM field… and taught in an R1 university.
While I’d never claim “I’m the smartest”… Just by nature of statistics I’m well into the “better educated populace”. I’m in the upper 14.4% as far as education goes. So call me an idiot if you want. It would actually be proof of the point then. As the vast majority of my education WAS in public systems, as grades 1-3 were the only private systems I participated in.
Because I think it’s a bullshit point? How does it segregate if EVERYONE now has the option to go to a private school?
Your parents had the option… They chose to pay and put you into a public school it sounds like. But they either were shit parents… or didn’t care enough about your schooling to place you in what you believe would have been a better choice. Options doesn’t always mean people make the best choice… or that every option is worthwhile to every individual. That doesn’t mean we should take away the choice and gatekeep those choices behind “well I hope you have enough money to pay for that education out of pocket!”.
But here’s another separate point I think is worth bringing up. If public schools are losing tons of students and that’s hurting their bottom line… and now there’s not enough money to keep them going… Why not scale it back? For shits and giggles I looked up the old school district. I was way off. They have 58 (!) elementary schools. If you don’t have enough students to fill those schools… Cut them back. Instead they’re opening more… Although now at a slower timescale while cutting jobs at the same time. The logic here is wild, they’re clearly throwing boatloads of money out the window here (into buildings), but I’m supposed to care? Hell they also spent some amount of millions revamping their logos and changing school names, now that’s a pressing matter when you’re on a budget shortfall right?! None of this affected my decision to pull my daughter out of the school. I never cared to pay attention to this shit. But you can’t beg for money, be mad when people say no just to do dumb shit with the money you already have. This is the same exact premise I apply to other public assets like Police. Cops don’t need fucking military vehicles, spend that money on training instead.
The new school? They had plans to build new schools. They scrapped them completely upon seeing that enrollment wasn’t growing. They even scaled back in some areas. Oh and something I specifically omitted. The program lets you go to other public school districts (it’s not JUST private and home schooling). So a district can have a policy that you have to go to the “nearest” school, but this program lets you migrate to other districts if desired and they allow it. My kids are still in public school. In any other state without this program that ALSO wouldn’t be an option for me.
This article plainly states how this shit is fucked and not helping. It is a massive drag on our education budget. Please shut the fuck up if all you have to offer is anecdotal defenses to a shitty system that cost 100x more than projected. Its not good, its not helping, its fucking bad.
No thanks.
Gee golly gosh I wonder what your race, political party, and favorite news channel are. It’s so hard to tell.
Bet you get every single one of them wrong.
Oh geeze, I looked at your comments. I did get it wrong. I thought republican but you’re clearly further right. I see you defending project 2025 and saying Germany shouldn’t have made nazi salutes illegal. Ew. Blocking you.
LMFAO. If that’s what you want to take away from it, sure. I asked for exactly what part of “project2025” is fascism. And notice I didn’t get an answer… But that isn’t me defending it. It’s me asking for where they’re finding fascism. Just because I don’t follow some random claim doesn’t make me republican or even right leaning.
How about the explicit call for punishing political rivals and giving the president dictator like powers? You don’t think that’s at least a LITTLE bit fascist? Did you even read any of it?
Okay… So since everyone now finally wants to talk about it…
Here’s the link. What page is that on?
If you (or anyone) could actually point me to where it actually says that I could actually make a fucking decision on the matter. Instead all I get is that someone else said it… or completely NON-sourced at all.
Clearly a public school education failed you. You speaking is a better advertisement for the voucher program than anything point you tried to make.
Its a shame idiots like you can be weaponized against a better educated populace.
Do you mean, “your ability to speak”, or “Your writing abilities”? Because your grammar isn’t exactly great for someone that wants to point at someone else’s intelligence.
This is the funny part of all of this. ALWAYS without fail people eventually claim that I’m republican and must be stupid. Except I’m not… I’ve voted republican once in the past 20 years of being old enough to vote. And it wasn’t for Trump. And second, I hold a Masters in a highly desired STEM field… and taught in an R1 university.
While I’d never claim “I’m the smartest”… Just by nature of statistics I’m well into the “better educated populace”. I’m in the upper 14.4% as far as education goes. So call me an idiot if you want. It would actually be proof of the point then. As the vast majority of my education WAS in public systems, as grades 1-3 were the only private systems I participated in.