• HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Have you traveled much? More countries do this than don’t. The trump nazis will abuse everything yes. But people not being able to afford a place to live is also giving us trump nazis in the first place

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      4 months ago

      Have you traveled much?

      Again

      The standard is good behavior, not other people.

      Must I repeat it again?

      The trump nazis will abuse everything yes.

      And yet you want to give them more? You don’t hand a gun to a person who went to jail repeatedly for using a gun.

      But people not being able to afford a place to live is also giving us trump nazis in the first place

      Assertion, please demonstrate it. Also demonstrate that your method of handing Nazis more power will make them less powerful. Lastly compare the US grabbling with fascists to other nations who have rules like you are advocating for and how they are also grappling with fascists.

      It’s a little thing but I kinda want you to acknowledge that the one time this idea was tried in diet form in the US it not only didn’t work it also legalized racism. You are suggesting an idea that we tried and it not only failed in the task it was meant to perform it also created a host of new problems.

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          4 months ago

          I really didn’t mention a word about anything you are saying to me now. I am pro-development anti-nimby and admit I haven’t studied the issues of corporate housing enough to weight in on it.

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            4 months ago

            My apologies if that came across as challenging your point with the nimby stuff. It’s like a fuselight, it wasn’t for you but just directed out in the open. Retracting the comment. Housing is something that’s sensitive to me because we just lost a family member to suicide, and while not solely that person’s rationale, among many factors housing was a significant one.

            Housing and healthcare on the trajectory it’s pointed at today, robs our youth of their hope, and signifies quite loudly that we as a society do not love or value the futures of our children, however people may feel internally.

            My only message for NIMBY people is that of hate and revulsion.

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              4 months ago

              Right but I am on your side about this. I want everyone to have housing that is awesome and within their price range. I just don’t agree that finding ways to punish immigrants and minorities is the best way to go about it. There is a difference between me saying “I want X and don’t think Y is the best way to get X” and me saying “fuck your family, I hate Y and lets do X to hurt them”. Me discussing how to solve a problem is not me denying the problem exists or should not be solved.

              Also you and me are good. I am sorry for your loss. I imagine I would be very sensitive to this subject in your situation.

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                4 months ago

                Typically it’s the NIMBY crowd who’s been most fiercely opposed to things like immigration and avoid conversations like “where should they live?”. They get so centered around traffic or noise concerns near their SFU houses. When I talk NIMBY, I’m talking about the old boomers that stack city council meetings to help overturn zoning decisions.

                I think what you’re saying is in solidarity with what I am. White, straight, liberal NIMBY’s are wolves in sheep’s clothing, extoling DEI and social justice virtues while they reject notions of change as soon as it makes any impact whatsoever on streets near their own neighborhoods.