All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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    1 year ago

    I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery. I’ll need to change my battery maybe once every 3 years, but I need to know it can handle moisture far more often than that.

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      I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery

      You can have both. My Galaxy XCover 6Pro is ip68 rated.

      The another benefit with removable batteries is that if you have two you can go from 0 to 100% charge in about a minute.

      • Comment105@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        This is why I want replaceable batteries in small EVs like bikes and such, too.

        And why I have thought for a while that it would be nice to have maybe 30% or so of electric car batteries be replacable with a moderately large rack in the “frunk” or trunk. But that’s just me.

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          1 year ago

          Most of the ebikes and motor scooters I’ve seen have removable batteries. Gogoro in India even has a battery swapping network for their scooters.

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            Gogoro’s existence is kinda bittersweet, it shows that it’s possible, but that companies aren’t willing to standardize and cooperate to make it the status quo and actually possible to build swap stations for globally, of even across just Europe.

            Ideally I’d want to see a plan where an e-bike or electric kickscooter takes one or two, and motorcycles take a few more. Idk if you could make batteries in that form-factor and put 12 or so into a car to gain enough miles to make a difference. Perhaps eventually, if we get the energy density gains we’re hoping for.

            Car-wise, I have no expectation that the industry will shift towards low weight and drag like Aptera is pushing for, so I don’t expect efficiency gains that way.

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          1 year ago

          This isn’t a replacement, but I have said for years now that someone needs to market a rentable tow-behind or rooftop battery sort of like U-Hauls for extra capacity needed for longer trips.

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            1 year ago

            People have tried it. The extra drag of a trailer or roof box consumes most of the extra energy that they carry.

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      1 year ago

      I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery.

      All it needs is that little rubber band, and you have to handle it carefully when closing the lid.

    • afunkysongaday@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Psst those Brands are not your friends and might lie about their reasons to make batteries non-removable.

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      1 year ago

      Any moderately well built phone won’t die just because you took it out in the rain.

    • Coffeemonkepants@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I have a handheld marine vhf radio with a removable battery that I can throw in the ocean and it will work and continue to work for days. Don’t believe the bs the manufacturers tell you.

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      1 year ago

      IP ratings don’t actually guarantee that in any way though. They don’t even guarantee that from the factory it won’t get water damage the second a drop of water hits it.

      I agree though, replacing a battery isn’t something I’ve ever needed to do tbh.

        • Whirlybird
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          1 year ago

          Yep. By the time my battery has dropped significantly I’ve long since moved on to a new phone.

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              1 year ago

              I didn’t say it was.

              The status quo is that almost every phone already has an easily replaceable battery. Replacing them isn’t really going to get any easier with this - phones aren’t going back to removable back covers because of this. At best it means all the screws in the phone will be phillips head, and there will be better pull tabs securing the batteries in place, because batteries already aren’t hard to replace.

              • Comment105@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                They’re hard enough to replace that last time I tried, it started inflating itself not long after. And they’re hard enough to replace that it costs over half the price of a used phone to get it professionally replaced.

                • Whirlybird
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                  1 year ago

                  Depends on the phone really. iPhones are super cheap to get a brand new battery installed by apple themselves. It’s not even worth replacing a battery in an iPhone yourself unless it’s one that apple won’t do, but if it’s one they won’t do it’s like nearly 10 years old I believe.

                  The older the phone is the harder it likely is to replace the battery. These days phones are designed with the battery easily accessible because it makes manufacturing and repairing easier.