• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Nobody disagrees that religion is not up to modern scientific standards.

    That wasn’t the point. At all. The point is that modern science still says they were on to something. The premise is right answer, wrong reason, so if religion isn’t science … you’re simply agreeing with the whole reason those rules were mentioned in this discussion: (sortof) right answer, wrong reasons.

    I’m positive it wasn’t simply, “god says so”, but probably because everyone noticed people who ate them got sick more often, and attributed ills befalling them as a message from God. It happens all the time in religion. It still stems from something real, just misattributed to God, as usual.

    In either case, the rules are still valid examples of, “something modern science (sort of) agrees with”.

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      4 months ago

      The premise is right answer, wrong reason

      Not even that, no. Rotten seafood ≠ all seafood.

      The point is that modern science still says they were on to something

      Nope. Modern science explains things that they didn’t know.

      They arrived at something that wasn’t completely incorrect in the same way as they arrived at “that burning bush talking must be sky daddy rather than my imagination”.

      That’s not “being on to something”. That’s “blind hen can also find corn” territory.

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        4 months ago

        Hi! I think your misunderstanding comes from the fact that religion, is not a mechanism for creating new knowledge, it is a collection of shared beliefs between people.

        A better comparison would be faith VS science, or religion VS scientific understanding.

        While most religious beliefs are faith based at their core, it’s easy to speculate that certain religious and cultural stigma arose after repeated observation of the natural world (Alice ate shrimp, Alice falls ill -> eating shrimp is against the will of God). Not as efficient as controlled scientific testing, but it ultimately lands you on the true statement “Eating shrimp is unwise and likely to get you sick”.