It’s because men sexually assault women a lot. Like, an awful amount. Children, relatives, the whole thing: 1 out of 3 women have been sexually assaulted. That’s why it’s different.
As a male victim of TWO count 'em TWO sexual assaults perpetrated by TWO count em TWO different women, “fuck me, I don’t matter.”
You gonna bring up that I “obviously wanted it because I’m a man” next? Go ahead and block me for downvoting both that comment and yours, make my lemmy a better place.
Thanks for your important testimony. I have come to believe that your case in is an exception but I have no means of knowing this for sure and I apologize for being triggering.
My case isn’t an exception, it happens more frequently then you’d like to believe and is seldom reported to another human much less law enforcement because men get laughed out of police stations and made fun of by friends. All the worse if the woman is conventionally attractive. In many localities the legal definition of rape is even phrased as “requiring penetration,” meaning in many areas (most of the US and iirc all of the UK included, plus more) women can’t get charged with rape they can only get charged with “sexual assault” at worst. There are many resources for woman victims but not one for male victims, males are not welcome in the women’s groups. Most people you talk to about it just want to tell you some variation of “I pretend I care about male victims but here’s why women are more important than you.”
It happened years ago and I’ve learned to live with it now, I don’t need pity. I need people to stop invalidating male victims, pretending they don’t exist, pretending we don’t matter due to volume, etc, to help the ones it happens to now. Fuck me I’m fine now, but whatever dude it happens to today somewhere out there in the world could use some help.
Because the overwheling majority of sexual assault convictions are of men. It’s true.
OHHH because the women who sexually assaulted me didn’t get convicted in a court of law, because I didn’t report them, because nobody cares about male victims, we should use that to further invalidate the experiences of future male victims? My mistake, how silly of me.
I’m sorry to hear that happened to you. I do not think that the statistics of abuser demographics should be relevant to their prosecution. That is a different thing to the thing I was talking about.
It would seem you think that women should be presumed innocent and men presumed guilty based on the number of people in each respective demographic that have been convicted of sexual assault in a court of law, based upon this thread here.
I can agree with all that, I think it comes off as endorsement or defense when coupled with the words of the third parties above, if that was not your intention then my mistake.
Yes.
And why do we think that might be different? Anyone?
The assumed innocence of women and the assumed guilt of men.
Yes. And why was that?
Misandry and the belief that anything with a penis is evil, even if the individual in question doesn’t even want to have a penis
No, but that is a compelling narrative.
It’s because men sexually assault women a lot. Like, an awful amount. Children, relatives, the whole thing: 1 out of 3 women have been sexually assaulted. That’s why it’s different.
You are absolutely right and this so obvious, yet, I see that you get about 50% downVotes and those might be from people I usually block.
As a male victim of TWO count 'em TWO sexual assaults perpetrated by TWO count em TWO different women, “fuck me, I don’t matter.”
You gonna bring up that I “obviously wanted it because I’m a man” next? Go ahead and block me for downvoting both that comment and yours, make my lemmy a better place.
Thanks for your important testimony. I have come to believe that your case in is an exception but I have no means of knowing this for sure and I apologize for being triggering.
My case isn’t an exception, it happens more frequently then you’d like to believe and is seldom reported to another human much less law enforcement because men get laughed out of police stations and made fun of by friends. All the worse if the woman is conventionally attractive. In many localities the legal definition of rape is even phrased as “requiring penetration,” meaning in many areas (most of the US and iirc all of the UK included, plus more) women can’t get charged with rape they can only get charged with “sexual assault” at worst. There are many resources for woman victims but not one for male victims, males are not welcome in the women’s groups. Most people you talk to about it just want to tell you some variation of “I pretend I care about male victims but here’s why women are more important than you.”
It happened years ago and I’ve learned to live with it now, I don’t need pity. I need people to stop invalidating male victims, pretending they don’t exist, pretending we don’t matter due to volume, etc, to help the ones it happens to now. Fuck me I’m fine now, but whatever dude it happens to today somewhere out there in the world could use some help.
Because the overwheling majority of sexual assault convictions are of men. It’s true.
Laughing at a child’s penis still sucks though.
OHHH because the women who sexually assaulted me didn’t get convicted in a court of law, because I didn’t report them, because nobody cares about male victims, we should use that to further invalidate the experiences of future male victims? My mistake, how silly of me.
I’m sorry to hear that happened to you. I do not think that the statistics of abuser demographics should be relevant to their prosecution. That is a different thing to the thing I was talking about.
It would seem you think that women should be presumed innocent and men presumed guilty based on the number of people in each respective demographic that have been convicted of sexual assault in a court of law, based upon this thread here.
I think no such thing, and if you got that impression from what I wrote then I must have expressed myself extremely badly.
Sexual assault sucks, no matter who does it, nor to whom. You deserve justice for what happened to you.
Here is the point I was trying to make:
More men are convicted for sexual assault than women.
Sharing pictures of a child’s penis without consent sucks. Maybe it’s sexual assault. Even if not, I believe it is a bad thing to do.
Some women do it anyway, and they get away with it because they’re not seen as the sexual assault demographic. This sucks.
I can agree with all that, I think it comes off as endorsement or defense when coupled with the words of the third parties above, if that was not your intention then my mistake.
It’s a leftist thing. I am liberal but I do not have any dillusions on how I am viewed by my ‘fellow’ liberals.
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I don’t know how you mean, but okay.
Because they are sitting in a pink colored train, and not in the blue colored one.
Also no, but interesting point
Because nobody cares when double standards negatively impact boys or men.
No, but very men’s rights there.
No, just equality. Isn’t that what feminism is about?
Dead right.
So close