I used it for years and just recently switched to Firefox. I was just comfortable using it, and knew how to use the dev tools. I had my extensions set up how I liked. I’m still missing a few things on Firefox but fuck chrome.
While there might not be an addon that perfectly emulates every feature of Toby on Firefox, I am fully confident you can achieve all of its features with settings, config/userchrome edits, or some of the addons that are available. Personally I use Tab Session Manager and Tab Center Reborn (heavily edited though), so you might look into those and see if they have features you like.
I use duckduckgo and they have bangs. Put !yt at the start of your search and it’ll automatically search youtube, !g for google, !a for Amazon, etc… Loads of bangs for basically every service out there.
I had an extension called Toby that opened a new tab and had an awesome page to organize bookmarks and open tabs. I can’t remember what I’m using on Firefox right now as I’m not at the computer, but it’s probably the most popular bookmark organizer. IMO Toby is just way ahead of anything I’ve found on Firefox.
It’s really easy to forget that back in the day (by which I mean what, 2010? Idk) chrome was super speedy and very cool with cool fast looking angular tabs and Google was a nice new cool internet company who’s moto was don’t be evil and the alternative was fucking internet explorer which was a cinder block in a blue shirt or Firefox which had a cool logo but was rather slow and the joke was that internet explorer’s whole purpose was to download chrome and I guess what I’m saying is that Google has lived long enough to see itself become the villain, or at least Comcast which is pretty much the same thing and tbh the only other time I can think of that something like this has actually happened is in 1998, when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table
I use chrome for work because it’s installed on every computer we have and the machines are locked down so I can’t install firefox if I wanted to. I move around between stations all the time so logging in and having all my bookmarks, passwords, history, etc… synced is convenient. I use firefox at home but most people just stick with what’s familiar to them. It’s a solid browser feature-wise and that’s what most people care about.
There was a stretch of time where it was legitimately the best popular browser for the vast majority of people. Then it just became the default, and nobody bothered to switch back once it started going to shit
The last time I tried Firefox on a touch device the pitch to zoom function was basically useless. It was nothing but an equivalent to [Ctrl] + [+]. This was some years ago, so it could be better now.
Unless it’s a RAM filling issue, because you would have too little RAM, and even then, the entire OS crashing and not just Firefox would be very unlikely, I don’t see any reason for it to crash your entire OS. Regardless, there are Firefox forks that use much much less RAM.
You’re using Windows, Mac or Linux first?
Try to uninstall, clean everything and reinstall with a new profile, it may work, who knows. If not, then it has to be your OS.
I don’t think it’s a RAM issue, unless Firefox eats 16GB of RAM. I mainly use Pop!_OS, a *nix distro, so maybe I messed up some package install that conflicts with Firefox in some way, but I haven’t figured out which one.
Pop!OS is a pretty stable distro, so there shouldn’t be any dependencies problem: you usually have that on arch or arch based distros, even if it’s quite rare.
Have you ever uninstalled Firefox and reinstalled it but without some of its dependencies? Or ignored a package it asked you to install with it afterwards?
If not, maybe it’s just an update that went wrong, like the PC shut down during an update or something. So update your system, uninstall firefox and reinstall.
Your data stored in your home directory (in .mozilla, a hidden folder) like your history, extensions, opened tabs, should be conserved, even if you use apt purge.
I really, really don’t understand why people use Chrome, or have been using it in the past
I used it for years and just recently switched to Firefox. I was just comfortable using it, and knew how to use the dev tools. I had my extensions set up how I liked. I’m still missing a few things on Firefox but fuck chrome.
What things are you missing?
I keep people saying they’re missing things from chrome. I honestly don’t get it, if anything I’ve had more usable features since switching back to FF
If you find anything similar to the Toby extension please let me know. I haven’t been able to find anything close on Firefox.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/toby-for-tabs/
For a similar project that is open source, check out https://josh-berry.github.io/tab-stash/
I expect you have tried to search for it in Firefox, but have you tried sideloading it somehow?
As far as I know Firefox supports a superset of the APIs that Chrome support, so it should be a possible?
While there might not be an addon that perfectly emulates every feature of Toby on Firefox, I am fully confident you can achieve all of its features with settings, config/userchrome edits, or some of the addons that are available. Personally I use Tab Session Manager and Tab Center Reborn (heavily edited though), so you might look into those and see if they have features you like.
I miss typing “you”, pressing tab and having the search bar change to YouTube search. And there’s lots of websites that supported that in chrome.
You can do that in firefox. Add the search engine, go to settings > search and add a keyword in the list
Basically every single “missing feature” I’ve seen people complain about exists on FF, they’re just too lazy to actually check
I use duckduckgo and they have bangs. Put !yt at the start of your search and it’ll automatically search youtube, !g for google, !a for Amazon, etc… Loads of bangs for basically every service out there.
I had an extension called Toby that opened a new tab and had an awesome page to organize bookmarks and open tabs. I can’t remember what I’m using on Firefox right now as I’m not at the computer, but it’s probably the most popular bookmark organizer. IMO Toby is just way ahead of anything I’ve found on Firefox.
Doesn’t FF have a builtin tool for that?
I’ll have to look into it, but that would be awesome!
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/bookmark-folders-organize-your-bookmarks
Toby is on firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/toby-for-tabs/
It’s really easy to forget that back in the day (by which I mean what, 2010? Idk) chrome was super speedy and very cool with cool fast looking angular tabs and Google was a nice new cool internet company who’s moto was don’t be evil and the alternative was fucking internet explorer which was a cinder block in a blue shirt or Firefox which had a cool logo but was rather slow and the joke was that internet explorer’s whole purpose was to download chrome and I guess what I’m saying is that Google has lived long enough to see itself become the villain, or at least Comcast which is pretty much the same thing and tbh the only other time I can think of that something like this has actually happened is in 1998, when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table
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Oh shit thanks I’ve got a hole in me pocket and they keep falling out 🕳️
Goddamn it not on lemmy too
It was faster than Firefox and more accurate than Internet Explorer.
That was a decade ago. Since id say Firefox and Chrome are the same speed and Edge is just branded Chrome.
Chrome used to be new and exciting when Google was still a “do no evil” hip tech company doing neat shit like Google Earth and stuff.
I use chrome for work because it’s installed on every computer we have and the machines are locked down so I can’t install firefox if I wanted to. I move around between stations all the time so logging in and having all my bookmarks, passwords, history, etc… synced is convenient. I use firefox at home but most people just stick with what’s familiar to them. It’s a solid browser feature-wise and that’s what most people care about.
Chrome is the only way I’ve figured out to cast video from my pc to my TV.
Casting is the only thing I use chrome for.
AFAIK you can use Airplay on FF or some equivalent
I’ll look into it, thank you for the suggestion.
Some industry tools are not developed with mutli browser in mind (don’t ask me why…)
Because the majority of people only know safari, edge, and chrome exist.
“It’s the fastest!”
This is the most common reason I’ve heard.
Because it’s the most popular browser
So it’s the most popular browser because it’s the most popular browser. Got it.
There was a stretch of time where it was legitimately the best popular browser for the vast majority of people. Then it just became the default, and nobody bothered to switch back once it started going to shit
Yeah and I think there was a time before Quantum where Firefox was drastically slower than chrome, and a lot of people switched.
I started using chrome because firefox was slower
The last time I tried Firefox on a touch device the pitch to zoom function was basically useless. It was nothing but an equivalent to [Ctrl] + [+]. This was some years ago, so it could be better now.
You can enable normal zoom in config. But on my Linux setup pinch would either toggle Ctrl++ or image-like zoom.
Because Firefox crashes my OS, for some odd reason.
Unless it’s a RAM filling issue, because you would have too little RAM, and even then, the entire OS crashing and not just Firefox would be very unlikely, I don’t see any reason for it to crash your entire OS. Regardless, there are Firefox forks that use much much less RAM. You’re using Windows, Mac or Linux first? Try to uninstall, clean everything and reinstall with a new profile, it may work, who knows. If not, then it has to be your OS.
I don’t think it’s a RAM issue, unless Firefox eats 16GB of RAM. I mainly use Pop!_OS, a *nix distro, so maybe I messed up some package install that conflicts with Firefox in some way, but I haven’t figured out which one.
Pop!OS is a pretty stable distro, so there shouldn’t be any dependencies problem: you usually have that on arch or arch based distros, even if it’s quite rare. Have you ever uninstalled Firefox and reinstalled it but without some of its dependencies? Or ignored a package it asked you to install with it afterwards? If not, maybe it’s just an update that went wrong, like the PC shut down during an update or something. So update your system, uninstall firefox and reinstall. Your data stored in your home directory (in .mozilla, a hidden folder) like your history, extensions, opened tabs, should be conserved, even if you use apt purge.
Even firefox developer edition?