Note I did not buy any food for myself.

To head off questions:

  1. No, I couldn’t cook for her. I’m suffering from a long-term illness where I can’t eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive. My wife is at a funeral, so I had to order food.

  2. She’s extremely picky and refused to let me order anything but pizza.

  3. We live outside of town, in a not very big town, with very few pizza delivery options, and they’re all at least this expensive.

  4. No, I didn’t also have to buy her the cheesy bread or the second topping or the sauces, but it’s nice to get my daughter a treat and that is no excuse for the order being that expensive.

  5. We’re in Indiana, so this should be ludicrous in terms of pricing. This used to be the pricing I would expect when we lived in L.A. and ordered from a good local place rather than a chain.

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    If you can tip a delivery driver $4 with a straight face I feel bad for you. $8 minimum for direct-to-doorstep food, regardless of the cost of the food.

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      Depends on your area.

      When I was a delivery driver I’d refuse anything less than $20 total, which meant about $18 of tip.

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        $18 is a bit much, but I have 10 downvotes that say $8 is too much, so who am I to judge.

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          It just meant bigger / more expensive food orders.

          Delivering $100 worth of food takes almost exactly the same effort as delivering $10 worth of food, but the difference in tips is huge.

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            When that happens, if they raise it high enough to actually do away with tipping, then that’s great. Until then, hard working poor people need their tips.

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            Yes, that is correct.

            Also the drivers use their own personal vehicles so they experience all the extra wear and tear, fuel costs, more frequent tire and oil changes, etc.

            It really is unfair which I why I make sure to tip decently.

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                I exist within the system. If I want a service which customarily involves a tip, that’s a part of what I signed up for.

                Show me the legislation to abolish tipping while requiring employers to pay a fair wage and I’ll sign it.

                Until then, if one wishes to receive a food delivery in the US, It’s sort of implied that you agreed to tip.

                Giving a shit tip to a hard working poor person because you don’t like the tipping system isn’t the solution imo.

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                  I thought yanks were all for the free market, tipping is the oppositeness to this as it negates the free market whereby companies complete with wages and benefits for staff.

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                    Us yanks aren’t all for anything. I’ve certainly become quite disillusioned about the free market over the past 40 years or so.

                    But in fact, free market principles suggest we would have tipless alternatives where workers make fair wages and the market could decide to reward those businesses or not. We do not have such alternatives and the market has failed us before the questions is even properly posed.

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                    There are only like 5 companies now so the free market is broken.

                    They collude to keep us poor enough to not revolt, but ‘rich’ enough to keep buying their crappy products.

                    If they take everything we have we won’t have anything left to give them. It’s a delicate balance that they seem to have mastered as they write our legislation.

                    Tipping is just another way for the corporations to reduce the overhead by having the customer pay the wages of the employee directly, reducing both the budget for salaries and also the reducing ancillary expenses like unemployment insurance and employer wage withholding, occupational privilege tax, etc.

                    Also, I like being called a yank. It feels old timey and kind of makes me think of masturbation.

                    The labor market is so fucked we have phd’s competing for a job at McDonald’s.