No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.

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    I just got an M2 MBP. In my personal experience it is very much not “shit”.

    Expensive and a PITA to fix? Quite possibly.

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      +1 apple products are very much not shit. Otherwise people wouldnt buy and use them as prolifically as they do.

      I started using Macbooks because the user experience on windows laptops sucks in comparison.

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          Let’s start with sleep mode not actually sleeping about 50% of the time and turning my backpack into an oven and killing the battery whenever it does?

          I wish Mac laptops were crap but they function so much better than windows laptops in so many little ways I find myself having a hard time justifying fighting windows laptops anymore.

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            IDK, I’ve had exactly the same problem with my work MBP. I was late to something and the computer locked up, so as soon as I got some level of control I put it to sleep and it seemed to sleep. An hour later and the fan was going crazy and it was super hot.

            It doesn’t happen a lot, but macOS isn’t immune to stupid issues like that. I’ve had far more hard crashes with macOS than I have with Linux.

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            Modern standby fucking sucks, luckily my laptop is from before that existed (and it runs linux but that’s besides the point)

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            @legion02 @CorruptBuddha, don’t blame laptops, blame Windows. The difference between PC/laptops and Mac is compatibility, to use any OS you want, Mac is only compatible with Mac, apart from costing twice as much as a PC/Laptop with equivalent system performance and features.

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              Does it matter who’s at fault? The end result is the same, a dangerously hot laptop. Even though I’m a huge Linux advocate it’s not an option for work reasons.

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                @legion02; ???, not even using Windows my laptop (a cheap one that cost me €350) heats up above 50º when I play a 3D FPS game or when I render to an Image. If it gets too hot it can depend on too many things, that your Sys Specs are too low, that the ventilation does not work well because it is dirty, that the thermal paste needs to be renewed, there are too many applications that are loaded at boot that take up too much RAM…
                In any case, it is not normal and requires you to check it.

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                  You’re entirely missing the point. It overheats because I put it in a bag when it’s supposed to be asleep. But it’s not actually sleep because microsoft and the laptop manufacturers designed modern sleep in a way that makes that non-deterministic. So now my laptop is awake inside the bag it normally sleeps in, killing the battery and making the laptop uncomfortably hot.

                  Watch the ltt video (yeah bad timing referencing ltt) “Microsoft is forcing me to buy macbooks” and you’ll understand the problem I’m describing.

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                    @legion02, I dont use sleep, I shut down the system, more if I put it in a bag to carry it to an other site. It’s logical that the system still in Standby also need ventilation.
                    With modern systems with an SSD a Cold start is only a few seconds slower than to start from Sleep mode, because of this the last mode isnt really necessary, apart a cold start from power off avoid a lot of crap in memory and reset the counter of using time to zero, save battery and is healthier for the system.

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      Agreed. I work in computer simulations and their great. CPU is crazy fast, stays cool and silent. Battery life is solid.

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        Battery life is solid.

        This is the understatement of the century lol. They’re up there with the best battery life on any laptop.