About 3 or 4 years ago PayPal added the option to buy cryptocurrency, which I thought I’d try. (Dumb idea 🙄)

Part of the sign up process was glitched. I retried and clicked submit one too many times, I guess. Now I’ve been unable to use PayPal for years. They blocked me because THEIR SITE was broken, but the web page essentially accuses me of being a criminal and asks for my bank records. No way in hell.

This was just for me to pay others. I can only imagine how awful PayPal is if you are a vendor.

Fuck PayPal.

  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 days ago

    Same, cant use half of online services because I can’t have PayPal (and don’t want a credit card for security concerns)

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        6 days ago

        Yeah, maybe a good idea to look into stuff like this. Do you know privacy friendly ones (who don’t sell or record your purchase history)?

        • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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          6 days ago

          I don’t really know any. I have a prepaid VISA with my bank. Had some fuckery happen to some of my accounts where I had my regular visa debit saved as payment method and I lost about 20€. I got them back but disabled the option for online payment for the card.

          So now I only use that prepaid with the exact amount of money needed to pay for what I am buying.

          I cannot really suggest any such cards that are separate services because I do not know any. Maybe look into if your bank has the option to get one.

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            6 days ago

            Yeah, this sounds reasonaboe, guess I habe to check if my Bank offers something like that. Credit cards are quite uncommon where I live, most people just use normal girocards for paying in shops and stuff (or physical money)

            • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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              6 days ago

              Are girocards like debit cards or something completely different?

              I just checked and I assume you are Austrian. Worst case scenario hop over the southern border and open an account here. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

              But almost sure you have something similar there as well. We are in Europe after all and banking is jot stuck in the 19th century like in the US.

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                5 days ago

                Well girocards will give the shop the permission to make a one time withdrawal of the amount displayed on the screen, if that money is in your account. If the money isn’t in your account, the payment will not go through. Also if the shop wants to make a second withdrawal, you need to insert your card again and enter your (secret) pin again, they can’t choose what’s charged an when (only before you insert your card an pin, and only THIS transaction will be authorized).

                Its a pretty secure system, as (as long as the card terminal isn’t hacked) you can’t spend more than you have, you don’t need to trust shops to only withdraw the agreed amount, and they can’t charge you a second time. Also the spending shows up on your account balance normally within 1 or 2 days.

                From what I understand credit cards just let anyone make withdrawals of any amount, as soon as you know the numbers written on the card. So not only you need to trust the shop to withdraw only the correct amount, you need to keep track over you spendings really good, because they could just charge you an arbitrary amount of money on an arbitrary company name months after you gave them your details. Also from what I understand (normal) credit cards just will always work, and if you pay more than you have you just automatically accept a credit contract you need to pay back to your bank. Also (years ago, don’t know if still true) payments get charged to your bank account on bulk at the end of the month, which makes security and not spending to much even harder.

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                  5 days ago

                  Ah okay so it is basically just a debit card. You see the terminal say for example 30€ and once you authorise that the 30€ are transferred from your account to theirs.

                  Unless there is some bog difference between giro and debit cards.

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                    5 days ago

                    Yeah, sounds like its the same. Do debit cards also have a pin (so you can’t get money put of people once you have stolen it or they put it in your terminal once?)