• stembolts@programming.dev
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    True. But they are also working on imprisoning people for thoughts, so, some negatives.

    If a tankie sees this and gets upset, simply discuss 1989 with me openly.

    Oh. You can’t, it’s a thoughtcrime to remember certain things isn’t it?

    As far as the US, fuck that Corporate Plutocracy as well.

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      I’m no tankie, and chinas efforts to scrub history is one reason we should have an open Internet, not the corporate one were getting. (Yay fefiverse).

      But to compare chinas prison risk with America’s is a poor argument. More prisoners in America and more racial disparity. Still a problem in China, but america seems by far the worst offender of inappropriate imprisonment from an outside perspective.

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        The US literally burned down 20 black enclaves because they were mad that some black people were becoming middle class.

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          And China is currently removing a religion from existence via genocide.

          The United States did similar when it genocided native americans.

          No need to play who is the worst, we’re all demons.

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            There’s no proof or that. They’re discriminating against them certainly but genocide is a specific thing. It’s not just when you imprison a lot of people.

            By that definition the US is committing a genocide against black people.

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              Really? How many black people are in forced labor camps in the US? Or being sterilized against their will? Having their children taken en masse to indoctrinate?

              Racism and mistreatment isn’t the same as genocide.

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              Cool, and there shouldn’t be. There is evidence, it’s likely not available in China due to the massive government censorship of … everything in Chinese society.

              I’m sure when China receives a request for international observers to visit a location, the government of China will make arrangements to show their commitment to…

              Oh wait, they did request, China said fuck off, and imprisoned Chinese citizens asking questions and amuggling footage to the international community.

              Oh yeah, you’re right. I totally wanna live in China. I love when thoughts become illegal and heads of companies disappear for months at a time, then reappear and if you ask why or where they were, your turn!

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    There are a ton of people in China that “own” a home or property, but it isn’t even built or usable. There are scores of ghost cities across China that were built as part of an economic bubble.

    There’s a ton of room for improvement in North America, and I’m not going to discount the fact that we need more smaller homes, and condos to be able to allow people to own a piece of property. However China’s metric is completely out of whack.

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    Those threads are always fun.

    Both china and the us are shitholes nobody wants to live in.

    The propaganda is only part of your problems.