• DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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      4 months ago

      What if you really want a warm hug but you only have the choice between a poke in the eye with a sharp stick and not a poke in the eye?

      You still choose “not a poke in the eye”, dumbo.

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          Do you really want me to answer that for you? Is it really that hard to think for yourself?

          Alright then… You get either one or the other, there’s no way out of that whether you make a choice or not. Wouldn’t you still want to influence the choice so you get the one that hurts a lot less?

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          I mean at that point you struggle to escape, but assuming that’s definitely not possible, then sharp sticks hurt less. 🤷‍♂️ “Optimal” does not necessarily mean “good” or “desirable”.

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              Yeah, equally deep and long injuries with a sharper implement destroy fewer cells (since they have a smaller cross-section), cause less trauma, and are less disruptive to the surrounding tissues. I know it’s unintuitive, but it’s true.

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              The dull stick is going to gouge your eye out entirely. I have no frame of reference of what would hurt more, but I guess that would be it.

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                No a dull stick would probably fuck your eye up, a sharp stick will absolutely destroy your eye.

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                  That entirely depends on how deep the stick goes into your eye - though at some point it won’t matter anyway.

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                    Yes if fired the dull stick out of a fucking cannon it would destroy the eye, how many bits of criteria are we going to add to this (what should be anyway) very straightforward analogy?

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      Voting for someone in an election in the US is not an endorsement of that person. You have effectively two choices in many of the elections due to how the system is designed. You vote for the best choice of those two.

      Not voting, or voting for a non viable candidate, is a signal that you Do Not Care who is in power.

      Voting is a tool, and a civic duty. It’s one of the few ways US society allows direct input from citizens.

      If you actually are against facism, don’t use misguided idealism to encourage people to throw away the little political power they have.

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        voting for someone in an election is absolutely a show of support for that person. voting anything other than a third party candidate makes you complicit in genocide imo

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          Advocating that people vote third party supports genocide more than quietly voting for Biden because you increase the probability of more genocide, while voting for Biden decreases the probability of more genocide.

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            This relies on the assumption that Trump wants to commit more genocide.

            I don’t think Trump will enable more genocide in Gaza than Biden. In fact, I think Trump will withdrawal all support for Ukraine and Israel to focus on starting to genocide the Chinese.

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            Voting for someone actively supporting genocide is less genocidal than voting for someone who advocates for ending genocide? Y’all got some serious mental gymnastics going on

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              Fortunately you have to be a US citizen to vote in the election, so we don’t have to worry about your opinion.

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                    i’m actively encouraging people to vote, not dissuading. and your elections affect lots of countries beyond the us, you realise that right?

                    you’re probably the exact same kind of guy who says stuff like “russians haven’t deposed putin yet so they’re complicit” but when it comes to biden they act like oh it’s not an endorsement to vote for him

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      Right now the Democratic Party’s convention and local election Primaries haven’t happened. Best that can be done is to influence the party platform through this primary season to influence or change what a ‘typical’ Democrat may be.

      There’s a massive influx of money right now going towards keeping typical Democrats in line with Israel. So it appears that will predictably be a prevailing issue one way or another.

      So like: most of my local elections usually feature Democrats v Democrats so I’ll likely opt for the non-Zionist or at least the less Zionist of the two. That may send a message for the winner of the Presidential ticket, if anything.