• HStone32@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    The longer I use Linux, the harder it becomes to see where windows users are coming from. Its gotten to the point where seeing people use windows in public feels incomprehensible to me, like watching people go to work on a pogo stick instead of a car.

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      19 days ago

      Three words: High Dynamic Range.

      HDR is a tacked on feature in KDE that barely works. In Windows 11, it’s a set and forget thing. SDR gets mapped to HDR space, so you don’t have to constantly toggle it on and off when switching between content, like you have to do in other OSes. You can even upgrade SDR videos and games to true HDR, even if they don’t have native support. It legit makes content look more realistic.

      And if you have a newer GPU, there’s also AI upscaling, which is great for watching HD and SD content on a 4K display. Pretty sure you can’t do they at all in Linux, at least not in real-time.

      But if you have an SDR monitor and/or an older GPU, none of this matters to you. Which in that case, there’s no reason for you to use Windows ever. But if your gear is newer, Linux is too outdated for you.

      I’ll check back in 5 years. Maybe 2029 will finally be the year I ditch Microsoft products for good.

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        It’s expected for HDR to mature on Linux later this year. I’ll send you an update in December.

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          It’s expected for HDR to mature on Linux later this year.

          HDR works on Steam Deck right now. It may take a while until it trickles down to distributions other than SteamOS and not every compositor may support it equally but in general support is there.

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            until it trickles down to distributions

            Ancap spotted. Most distros don’t use Gamescope. Although if HDR support is in KWin, then you can just go and install KDE on rolling release distro.

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              Most distros don’t use Gamescope.

              Well, that’s the problem of the person making a general statement about all of Linux in overall and not going into specifics.

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        19 days ago

        These are nice, but on the other hand there’s the case where you have a limited time slot somewhere and windows randomly decides that it’s time to update, pop up a window to upload your data to “the cloud”, reboot, and bang, you’re f*cked.

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        19 days ago

        You can even upgrade SDR videos and games to true HDR, even if they don’t have native support. It legit makes content look more realistic.

        You are just applying filters. They look good, but they are incorrect.

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        HDR is just a scam. It’s essentially automated brightness and contrast controls that is terribly done. I’ve seen HDR on brand new displays running HDR-capable everything and it just looks like someone can’t figure out how to set their monitor up correctly. It’s a buzzword created for crap technology that makes people want to spend more on essentially the same trash.

        And as for scaling, look up FSR.

        Windows is 100% obsolete and anyone who disagrees is just looking for excuses.

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          It’s essentially automated brightness and contrast controls that is terribly done

          Brightness? True. Contrast controls? It seems you are confusing software HDR, which compresses HDR to SDR, and hardware HDR.

          Hardware HDR is fancy word to say burning you eyes harder.

          When you represent image as 3d vector field of brightnesses, it IS brightness control terribly done, but our eyes don’t care.

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            The point is it’s just poorly done automated adjustment of what should be done manually on your monitor, and it’s a laughable overpriced scam meant to take money out of the pockets of people who fall for tech buzzwords.

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        Three words: High Dynamic Range.

        Works fine on Steam Deck. (The comment you’re replied to is about Linux, not a specific DE, so your experience with a specific DE doesn’t really count as counter argument about Linux in general.)

        And if you have a newer GPU, there’s also AI upscaling, which is great for watching HD and SD content on a 4K display. Pretty sure you can’t do they at all in Linux, at least not in real-time.

        That is wrong.

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        I am utterly perplexed by the HDR talk, honestly. Why does it even matter? I’ve been consuming media on Linux for more than a decade and it looks perfect to me.

        When people talk about making it look even better, I literally can’t imagine what they’re talking about. I mean, when people had black n white TV, they could imagine color. When I had a CRT and 3D games, it was easy to imagine better quality, but going from 1080p to 4k already does nothing. HDR just seems like marketing bullshit that people wouldn’t be able to discern, unless flicking between normal and HDR or having them side by side.

        Anti Commercial-AI license

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      I’ve gone off the FOSS deep end so it doesn’t stop when I see Windows used in the wild.

      The longer I’m here, the more I recoil at the sight of people using products from Google so casually and thoughtlessly.

      I’ll feel visceral disgust when I see the soulless, dystopian corporate logos of Xitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, etc that wormed their way into a universal presence on social footers of websites or promotional emails or search engines… and everyone’s locked down devices, sucking up troves of data to map who you are, were, and will be. Even McFuckingDonalds has a clause in a policy saying they’ll measure your intelligence.

      The greater the intersect between emotions felt while enjoying a cautionary fictional cyberpunk tale and those felt while experiencing reality… well, anyway you get the idea.

      Tldr I need a hug from a penguin or cocaine from a bear or something holy shit

      You, reader, go. Hug a penguin. Spread love to the world. Believe in the change you want to see. Be good to each other. And don’t let anyone or anything take who you are, were, or can be away from you, be it a corp, a government, or a bad day.

      Have a good day

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          Hahaha thanks. I like being extra and colorful like this. It’s a good release in more ways than one

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      19 days ago

      like watching people go to work on a pogo stick instead of a car.

      At least going to work on a pogo stick makes more sense in urban area. You can’t bring car into subway. Windows on the other hand…

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      I feel the same way, but I feel it with lots of other topics in my life as well.

      I daily drive Linux for both home and work. Windows is absolutely shit, yes, but when you’re using Linux as your primary system, the only interaction you have with Windows is through other people. And that interaction is only when people’s experience with Windows is noteworthy enough for them to mention anything about it. Its selection bias.

      A similar thing happened with me when I visited home after having been gone for 2 years. I moved from the US to the UK over a decade ago. I’d go back every 6-12 months, but because of COVID it was over 2 years. It was during the vaccine rollouts too, and I was expecting this warzone anti mask/antivax everywhere. I saw a few people (like, over 3 weeks I saw less than a dozen) with signs protesting at intersections. And I saw one guy have an argument with his wife in the parking lot which she just eventually told him to stay in the the car if he wasn’t going to wear a mask while she went to the grocery store. Thats pretty much the opposite of what I expected based on the images I got for the previous 2 years through overseas media. You only get the lowlights.

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      Hell it looks ro me like they are driving a Flintstonemobile, where every time they stop using thier feet a boxing glove punches them in the face.