The part where the reality is we have a plurality voting system (“First past the post”) in place today.
We supposedly live in a democracy,
We do.
I’m voicing my opinion.
You are.
I’m not saying the rule of law should prevent you from doing what you’re doing (I’m not a fan of fascism). However, you’re being willfully ignorant if you acknowledge our plurality voting system, but claim your work convincing people not to vote for Biden doesn’t also helps Trump become president again.
I don’t get it, what you detail is democracy, and these people are being hideous about it, if someone wants to vote third party then that’s they’re democratic right and to nag and ostracise someone for they’re democratic right is manipulative.
if someone wants to vote third party then that’s they’re democratic right and to nag and ostracise someone for they’re democratic right is manipulative.
Oh, right, only the people you agree with have the right to freedom of speech.
If the race is neck and neck, and you vote for Micky mouse because you wanna feel superior to everyone around you, all you’ve done is make things worse.
Depending on your location, you may have directly helped trump.
Wrong. In some cases, if your district is competitive, and you’ve decided to vote for not-trump, if you vote for anyone but the other competitive candidate (in this case Biden), you allow trump to pull ahead due to first past the post voting.
Edit: hypothetically if only 4 people vote,
2 for trump
1 for Biden
1 for mickey
Trump wins.
Edit edit or more compelling…
5 total voters.
2 for trump 1 for Biden 1 for Mickey and one abstains
Trump wins. If the mickey and the abstain voters don’t want trump, their best action was to vote for Biden, as that would have achieved:
Bullshit. All conditions I just laid out, were declared in my above comment. Including location dependence.
Edit because you seem to need help… The location dependence I’m referring to is that you need to be in a sufficiently competitive location for that clause to be relevant.
you said a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for trump. you’re backing away from that now, softening the claim to say it “allows him to pull ahead”. I’m just trying to keep the rhetoric honest.
If the race is neck and neck, and you vote for Micky mouse because you wanna feel superior to everyone around you, all you’ve done is make things worse.
Depending on your location, you may have directly helped trump.
That does not say “a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for trump”… There are explicit conditionals that you’re ignoring lol
Your anti Biden campaign is what counts here because a) we are all here and b) every voter who reads it is not in California. You want to hate Biden that’s totally fine and cool, but leave this hypocritical shit at home. You are an anti Biden loudspeaker around here, not an anti trump voice who likes Biden less.
Most of us see your posts and roll our eyes, but if you sour 10 minds to Biden and your vote doesn’t count, who are you helping? Not the non voters, not the voters who feel like you just posted (of which I am one), just the red hat brigade.
If you want to be for trump then do it, if you want to hate Biden do it, but you’re yanking our dicks around here and I for one don’t like it. Do what you want, but expect this kind of response from the community to keep worsening; not that a downvote ever hurt anybody.
Continue to downvoted but also fight back for Biden. Start posting some positive articles and listing his policies and accomplishments. Better yet, sign up to volunteer for the Biden campaign. Phone calls, texts, canvassing, etc. I tried to find the volunteer sign up on Biden’s website but I don’t see one though so maybe he doesn’t care about volunteers.
As I rule I don’t post because I get too sucked into it instead of, you know, being a good dad lol. Yes I also have not found a Biden volunteer option besides cold calling, so I walk for my state rep in my down time instead.
Where’s the part where it helps Trump? We supposedly live in a democracy, I’m voicing my opinion.
The part where the reality is we have a plurality voting system (“First past the post”) in place today.
We do.
You are.
I’m not saying the rule of law should prevent you from doing what you’re doing (I’m not a fan of fascism). However, you’re being willfully ignorant if you acknowledge our plurality voting system, but claim your work convincing people not to vote for Biden doesn’t also helps Trump become president again.
Vote for whoever you want. Biden, Trump, third party, write in, don’t vote, your choice. Democracy at work.
I don’t get it, what you detail is democracy, and these people are being hideous about it, if someone wants to vote third party then that’s they’re democratic right and to nag and ostracise someone for they’re democratic right is manipulative.
Oh, right, only the people you agree with have the right to freedom of speech.
If the race is neck and neck, and you vote for Micky mouse because you wanna feel superior to everyone around you, all you’ve done is make things worse.
Depending on your location, you may have directly helped trump.
a vote for mickey mouse doesn’t help trump. only a vote for trump helps trump.
Wrong. In some cases, if your district is competitive, and you’ve decided to vote for not-trump, if you vote for anyone but the other competitive candidate (in this case Biden), you allow trump to pull ahead due to first past the post voting.
Edit: hypothetically if only 4 people vote,
2 for trump 1 for Biden 1 for mickey
Trump wins.
Edit edit or more compelling…
5 total voters.
2 for trump 1 for Biden 1 for Mickey and one abstains
Trump wins. If the mickey and the abstain voters don’t want trump, their best action was to vote for Biden, as that would have achieved:
2 for trump 3 for Biden 0 for mickey.
Biden wins.
You’re already moving the goalposts.
Bullshit. All conditions I just laid out, were declared in my above comment. Including location dependence.
Edit because you seem to need help… The location dependence I’m referring to is that you need to be in a sufficiently competitive location for that clause to be relevant.
you said a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for trump. you’re backing away from that now, softening the claim to say it “allows him to pull ahead”. I’m just trying to keep the rhetoric honest.
That does not say “a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for trump”… There are explicit conditionals that you’re ignoring lol
Quote me punk or delete your comment
anyone can read this thread.
Calm down. I’m in California. My vote doesn’t count.
Go cry to the 65 million that don’t vote at all.
Your anti Biden campaign is what counts here because a) we are all here and b) every voter who reads it is not in California. You want to hate Biden that’s totally fine and cool, but leave this hypocritical shit at home. You are an anti Biden loudspeaker around here, not an anti trump voice who likes Biden less.
Most of us see your posts and roll our eyes, but if you sour 10 minds to Biden and your vote doesn’t count, who are you helping? Not the non voters, not the voters who feel like you just posted (of which I am one), just the red hat brigade.
If you want to be for trump then do it, if you want to hate Biden do it, but you’re yanking our dicks around here and I for one don’t like it. Do what you want, but expect this kind of response from the community to keep worsening; not that a downvote ever hurt anybody.
Continue to downvoted but also fight back for Biden. Start posting some positive articles and listing his policies and accomplishments. Better yet, sign up to volunteer for the Biden campaign. Phone calls, texts, canvassing, etc. I tried to find the volunteer sign up on Biden’s website but I don’t see one though so maybe he doesn’t care about volunteers.
As I rule I don’t post because I get too sucked into it instead of, you know, being a good dad lol. Yes I also have not found a Biden volunteer option besides cold calling, so I walk for my state rep in my down time instead.