The Big Social score so far:
- Twitter: burning
- Reddit: detonated a bomb under itself
- Meta: rumored to join #ActivityPub with a new app
- YouTube: videos were always 2nd to “native” ones on the other networks, but they could trivially open an #ActivityPub firehose (and maintain their preroll ads while doing so)
- rest of Google: never found organic success and don’t have a bet in the game apart from wanting to index everything
No predictions here, just stating the obvious. @fediverse
I don’t want meta in my fediverse :/
They will grab all non tech users and put them in their walled garden.
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. No, we don’t want that, and we definitely don’t want them slurping Fediverse data!
Well you know, probably cant stop them from slurping the data but very important to use aliases. Because all they will ever see is the IP of the instance and the alias. Its not enough for them to connect the data to your real identity (if you are a facebook user).
Don’t forget the recent Twitch debacle.
I’ve heard streamers say that the only reason they are still putting up with Twitch is because Youtube’s livestream system is so bad.
long live lemmy 💙
I don’t see Youtube collapsing any time soon. at least i hope not, i live on it
He’s not saying that YT will collapse. He’s saying that YT joining the fediverse would immediately flood he fediverse with YT videos on every fediverse client (Lemmy, Kbin, Mastodon, Friendica, etc) with ads included (a “firehose”, as he puts it).
Depending on implementation, they could map likes = upvotes, dislikes = downvotes, YouTube comments could be federated too, etc.
Probably a drop in the bucket compared to YT users, but it’d be a relatively quick and easy way of increasing their active userbase.
You forgot about Google+, which Google was pushing hard (forcing YouTube users to have Google+ accounts even!) and then shut down. 😄
Fun fact: Google+ started after the early version of Fediverse, and shuttered years ago. There is continuity on fedi with some instances running continuously since before Google+ was a thing. 👈
The gross thing about it too was it forced many people on YouTube to switch over from a username to their actual personal name, which was basically one of the only lasting side effects of their push for its attachment to YouTube.
the federated block list is about to get serious