Or web site owners that use it will go out of business because people don’t want to change their browsers. The companies will realize their decision was bad when all of a sudden their customers stop coming to their sites.
Google needs shut down! Or at least go back to being a search engine.
Apple “privacy first” policy is just the corporate image they want to sell, if they can get away with it without being questioned by the public, they will.
We need some new Anti-Monopoly governments to come into power and take a hatchet and machete to google and carve it up, and learn from the ATT/Ma Bell situation by making it so the richest fragment cant buy up all the remaining fragments after a couple decades and go all T2000 on the situation.
I don’t see that too soon, big companies control the government. Unless that can be stopped, which it won’t, the little guy is going to continue to be screwed in the advancement of capitalism
Or someone will somehow create a new web browser or add-on or just another branch of Chromium that fakes out the DRM somehow.
Like with ReVanced, for example. It’s a modified version of the YouTube app with an adblocker and several other bells and whistles added on (and the ability to remove a lot of Google’s own bells and whistles).
The effect those people will have on profit margins probably are negligible, given the large amount of people using Google-created web browsers already.
I’m not recommending death threats, but maybe hit them wheee it really hurts. Everyone quit using the internet for a week or two. And I do mean everyone around the world. Hell we survived quite well without the internet until the late 80’s, we have the knowledge, so let’s use it.
Oh please. Did you learn nothing from the reddit “protests”?
the average user doesnt give a fuck until it affects them, personally. And then they’ll blame someone besides the problem for it, and double down and continuing to support bad things.
Oh I know it won’t happen. It’s just a pipe dream. But that would be the only way to stop the problem. We, as a society, rely too heavily on the internet. Someone would always have an excuse to be on it
Unfortunately you’re probably right. Vivaldi has already said they will likely adopt this standard despite them disagreeing with it, I assume the same will happen to Firefox and Brave if the standard becomes widely adopted and used enough. Its not an easy issue to tackle. The good thing is we can fight back and push its adoption back as far as possible, as well as just avoiding and boycotting any websites that adopt the standard. I don’t know if the push back will be big enough to make an impact, but we at least have to try and do what we can.
We’ve already seen DRM garbage added to nearly every browser for media playback, despite massive backlash and concerns from organizations like the EFF. Mozilla didn’t want to adopt it iirc but they caved in to not lose market share and adopted it in the most user friendly and secure/privacy respective way that they could (Restricting the DRM in its own sandbox), so I could see something like that happen again unfortunately. However to be fair, this new Google DRM standard will be significantly worse and more of a problem than that DRM implementation, as this effects entire websites themselves now and is on a whole new scale and precedent, and not just for certain media content, so hopefully more can be done to prevent this and fight back.
Vivaldi has no choice. They have built their browser on Blink, which is made by Google. Google will force them to comply. Their way out would be to go back to the Opera web browser, which they gave up on over a decade ago.
So they say. Remember they also promised not to track users, keep trackers away, and keep your browsing experience ad-free. They came back from that within a year.
I wonder if there can be any anti-monopoly law suits involved if Google just starts implementing drm on its websites and products without other browsers agreeing to implement it. Sounds a lot like “use chrome, or else.”
Doesn’t matter. Websites will break on the rest of the browsers. Users will complain. All browsers now have Web DRM
Or web site owners that use it will go out of business because people don’t want to change their browsers. The companies will realize their decision was bad when all of a sudden their customers stop coming to their sites.
Google needs shut down! Or at least go back to being a search engine.
The chance that happens when google is the most used is pretty small
The chance of that happening when large corporations, banks, etc. start rolling this out…
Unfortunately
Google Chrome amounts to 63,55% of global browser market share right now.
Call me when Safari weighs in with their 20% share. That’s a big enough group to actually kill this effort outright.
Let’s hope Apple puts their “privacy first” money where their mouth is.
Sadly I do however think the ability to further lock down and control what uses can see and access might be just as tempting for them…
Apple “privacy first” policy is just the corporate image they want to sell, if they can get away with it without being questioned by the public, they will.
Apple already has something similar in place (https://httptoolkit.com/blog/apple-private-access-tokens-attestation/).
And 90% of them complain about privacy invasions by big tech or lack of anonymity
We need some new Anti-Monopoly governments to come into power and take a hatchet and machete to google and carve it up, and learn from the ATT/Ma Bell situation by making it so the richest fragment cant buy up all the remaining fragments after a couple decades and go all T2000 on the situation.
I don’t see that too soon, big companies control the government. Unless that can be stopped, which it won’t, the little guy is going to continue to be screwed in the advancement of capitalism
Or someone will somehow create a new web browser or add-on or just another branch of Chromium that fakes out the DRM somehow.
Like with ReVanced, for example. It’s a modified version of the YouTube app with an adblocker and several other bells and whistles added on (and the ability to remove a lot of Google’s own bells and whistles).
The effect those people will have on profit margins probably are negligible, given the large amount of people using Google-created web browsers already.
I doubt that but website owners that implement it might receive enough death threads to reconsider I guess, it’s the internet after all.
I’m not recommending death threats, but maybe hit them wheee it really hurts. Everyone quit using the internet for a week or two. And I do mean everyone around the world. Hell we survived quite well without the internet until the late 80’s, we have the knowledge, so let’s use it.
Oh please. Did you learn nothing from the reddit “protests”?
the average user doesnt give a fuck until it affects them, personally. And then they’ll blame someone besides the problem for it, and double down and continuing to support bad things.
Oh I know it won’t happen. It’s just a pipe dream. But that would be the only way to stop the problem. We, as a society, rely too heavily on the internet. Someone would always have an excuse to be on it
99% of internet users don’t care. Sad, but true.
Very true. They bitch about privacy and anonymity but don’t want to be truly proactive about it properly
Unfortunately you’re probably right. Vivaldi has already said they will likely adopt this standard despite them disagreeing with it, I assume the same will happen to Firefox and Brave if the standard becomes widely adopted and used enough. Its not an easy issue to tackle. The good thing is we can fight back and push its adoption back as far as possible, as well as just avoiding and boycotting any websites that adopt the standard. I don’t know if the push back will be big enough to make an impact, but we at least have to try and do what we can.
We’ve already seen DRM garbage added to nearly every browser for media playback, despite massive backlash and concerns from organizations like the EFF. Mozilla didn’t want to adopt it iirc but they caved in to not lose market share and adopted it in the most user friendly and secure/privacy respective way that they could (Restricting the DRM in its own sandbox), so I could see something like that happen again unfortunately. However to be fair, this new Google DRM standard will be significantly worse and more of a problem than that DRM implementation, as this effects entire websites themselves now and is on a whole new scale and precedent, and not just for certain media content, so hopefully more can be done to prevent this and fight back.
Vivaldi has no choice. They have built their browser on Blink, which is made by Google. Google will force them to comply. Their way out would be to go back to the Opera web browser, which they gave up on over a decade ago.
Brave is also built on Chromium and they won’t be adding support for the API.
So they say. Remember they also promised not to track users, keep trackers away, and keep your browsing experience ad-free. They came back from that within a year.
I wonder if there can be any anti-monopoly law suits involved if Google just starts implementing drm on its websites and products without other browsers agreeing to implement it. Sounds a lot like “use chrome, or else.”