• flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz
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    1 month ago

    You know what happens when an entire nation is exposed to luxurious lifestyles of an extremely wealthy minority?

    Revolution. Revolution happens.

    Chinese politicians know this fact too well, that’s why they’re trying to make rich people hide their wealth.
    I mean actually fixing the problem is out of the question, that would be communism.

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      1 month ago

      Idk. That exposure happens here, and it mostly makes people go into debt trying to emulate the appearance of wealth.

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      1 month ago

      you and me are probably exposed to extreme luxury from a minority, but revolution aint happening anywhere rn

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      This is one of those laws where I fundamentally disagree with the state having the power to make laws like this because the power will be misused, but in this instance, I actually think the law seems fine? Its not just exposing actual luxurious lifestyles like you imply, its also people going into debt to fake a higher level of lifestyle than they actually live, and this self perpetuates through social media like a virus.

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        If the government gave even a single shit about the poor, they would focus on banning wealth hoarding not wealth flaunting.
        But they don’t, so they aren’t.
        What they are doing is openly showing who they are and what they do care about (capitalists, on both counts), you not wanting to believe it is a different problem.

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      Communism wouldn’t fix much, and it would only be a temporary fix. It doesn’t work well at a larger scale which is why every country that has tried it has either fallen apart or turned into a dictatorship.

      We’re better off finding the proper balance between capitalism and socialism until someone comes up with a better system that actually works.

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        I mean most houses crumble when you hit em with a tornado but were still building houses.

        What i mean to say is I think we can agree there’s enough noise in most previous communism attempts, making them pretty shitty data to base your hypothesis off off

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          1 month ago

          Communism is a house that crumbles on its own, fast, while producing tornadoes that take down other houses in the process.

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            1 month ago

            Fun analogy but uh that’s not all that scientific my guy.

            Give me 5 min and I’ll draw communism as Chad then you’ll be fucked

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            1 month ago

            Which Communist government existed in a world where othet countries didn’t actively sabotage it?

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    Funny how China gets criticised both for doing “communist” things and then for doing “not really communist” things. Seems like they get criticised regardless of what they do.

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      Nah. Having so much wealth that it doesn’t matter if the CCP makes flaunting illegal is an insane flex. They’ll start doing it even more.

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      1 month ago

      bad news, those who do rap in China are all technical secondary schools.

      I know that not all countries care about academic qualifications as much as China. Academic qualifications mean almost everything in Chinese, so this makes those who rap more funny because they have no academic both time . can you understand what i mean ?

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      1 month ago

      China is “communist” in the same way NK is “democratic”. It’s just branding.

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          Capitalism only works in theory in practice it’s all homeless encampments, people going hungry, wealth inequality, gender inequality, race inequality, global inequality, climate disaster, war.

          Capitalism has never worked

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            A balance between capitalism and socialism is what most countries are already using and has worked for a long time.

            Communism is the one that only works in theory and anywhere it has been tried has quickly led to dictatorships or else it has fallen apart.

            Edit: what most countries are using (not every country)

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              Social programs and social welfare aren’t really balancing socialism with capitalism, the means of production is fully owned by capitalists and there is no democratization of it. Sure we have some coops but the vast majority of workplaces are dictatorships

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                It’s more of a balance between how much is run by companies vs the regulations that the government imposes on those companies.

                Pure capitalism doesn’t really exist anywhere.

                And what kind of companies are you working for where you feel that your workplace is a dictatorship? If I ever felt that way I would leave and work somewhere else.

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                  1 month ago

                  Some Lords probably treat their subjects better than others true, at least we moved past serfdom.

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                Yes workplaces are communist dictatorships. There’s one key difference between a workplace that is a communist dictatorship and a country that is one: you’re at that workplace by your own consent and you can leave.

                Communism is okay when people can choose it willingly and opt out any time. When that communist system is competing with other communist systems for resources.

                Also, the means of production are largely owned by workers in the United States, given how many companies offer stock to their employees, and how many people work for themselves, and how many people use their own tools, cars, computers, and kitchens to earn money.

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      That’s a weird combination of things to believe. It’s weird all together and every part of it is weird individually.

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        I can explain to you ten thousand words to prove that China’s humanistic heritage has never changed since the Qin Dynasty.

        This is probably a consensus on the Chinese Internet.

        I was just joking when I said Renaissance, although it is not unreasonable.