Cool source (the second one, the first one fucking sucks I hate it 😁). According to it all mammals have canines, even and especially herbivores. The sabre-tooth water deer for example, cited in your source, has extremely pronounced canines. Still a herbivore. Next!
I mean the source you provided literally says the bottom canines are less pointy and pronounced than the top set, especially in humans, so I don’t feel very corrected? You keep at it though, I believe in you!
Still dying to know how the tooth’s name at all indicates anything of its function. Canines are literally omnivores. Most primates use theirs for fighting. So please, if you’re done with the ad hominem I’d love to see you try to defend this here comment.
Are you insinuating that having canines makes you an omnivore because we have been over this several times how almost every mammal regardless of diet has flat molars and sharp incisors, and yes even canines. Heck, water deer have turned their canines into long fangs and they still only eating that herb
It’s almost like there’s different evolutionary factors of how canines are formed. oh my God what the fuck wow, who could have guessed. 😱
I wonder what the human evolutionary factors were. It couldn’t possibly be a lack of food and a evolutionary benefit of eating a much wider diet or anything.
Although most of us conduct our lives as omnivores, in that we eat flesh as well as vegetables and fruits, human beings have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores (2). The appendages of carnivores are claws; those of herbivores are hands or hooves. The teeth of carnivores are sharp; those of herbivores are mainly flat (for grinding). The intestinal tract of carnivores is short (3 times body length); that of herbivores, long (12 times body length). Body cooling of carnivores is done by panting; herbivores, by sweating. Carnivores drink fluids by lapping; herbivores, by sipping. Carnivores produce their own vitamin C, whereas herbivores obtain it from their diet. Thus, humans have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores."
Anyway if you want to pretend that the current factory farm hellscape is humanitie’s natural state, you go ahead because unlike you I have a philosophy of live and let live.
Cannot help but notice that that paragraph does not contain the word “omnivore” anywhere except the first sentence.
The fact that the human body is not especially well suited to killing prey with its bare hands and tearing flesh off of bones is more indicative of tool use and the fact that we cook our food than anything else, and even if it weren’t, herbivores get sick when they eat meat. Carnivores get sick when they eat plants. Humans get sick from neither; therefore, definitionally, we are omnivores.
I do agree that the state of factory farming is apalling. I can also imagine futures in which factory farming does not exist besides the one where no human eats meat ever again.
i’m not gonna say it again. i applaud your decision to go vegan, but please, for the love of everything you hold sacred, stop pretending your choice is the only correct one. You say you can live and let live. Demonstrate this please.
OP didn’t make an argument, OP posted a meme poking fun at people who unironically say things like that. In response the OP of this particular thread unironically said something like that. I’m just having a good time.
Dude if I had a nickel for every dumb prick who pointed at their little bitty canines and said some variation of “see, we have sharp teeth, we’re carnivores” I’d have a lot of nickels.
OP didn’t create this argument. The world is full of things that have nothing to do with you. Instead of getting bent out of shape about it you can just move along. You don’t get the reference? Keep scrolling, it’s not for you.
Cool source (the second one, the first one fucking sucks I hate it 😁). According to it all mammals have canines, even and especially herbivores. The sabre-tooth water deer for example, cited in your source, has extremely pronounced canines. Still a herbivore. Next!
Downvote if you can’t refute!
I didn’t even take a stance on what the teeth mean for diet. I was just correcting you lol.
I mean the source you provided literally says the bottom canines are less pointy and pronounced than the top set, especially in humans, so I don’t feel very corrected? You keep at it though, I believe in you!
Less pointy != not pointy but go off bb.
Go rip some fresh animal flesh straight off the bone with those pointy bad boys then, bb.
I can do that with my front teeth, they’re like blades…
Yeah, front teeth are awesome. I opened the outer hull of a coconut once with mine.
The bottom what? Bottom canines? So you’re arguing they’re not what they are literally called?
Still dying to know how the tooth’s name at all indicates anything of its function. Canines are literally omnivores. Most primates use theirs for fighting. So please, if you’re done with the ad hominem I’d love to see you try to defend this here comment.
What ad hominem is that?
“garbage” ‘gibbering nonsense’
Are you a conservative by chance? Masterfully sidestepping the question yet again!
Was that meant as an ad hominem? I thought you didn’t like those.
Garbage was a reference to what you were adding to the “discussion”, not you as a person, so doesn’t qualify as ad hominem.
Same for gibbering nonsense.
I ask you questions and you sidestep them over and over and over again and I’m adding garbage to the conversation?
Oh my God!! 😱 It’s almost like humans are omnivores too 😱, who could’ve guessed?
Are you insinuating that having canines makes you an omnivore because we have been over this several times how almost every mammal regardless of diet has flat molars and sharp incisors, and yes even canines. Heck, water deer have turned their canines into long fangs and they still only eating that herb
It’s almost like there’s different evolutionary factors of how canines are formed. oh my God what the fuck wow, who could have guessed. 😱 I wonder what the human evolutionary factors were. It couldn’t possibly be a lack of food and a evolutionary benefit of eating a much wider diet or anything.
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And how, pray tell, does the name ‘canines’ factor into your argument? I’m dying to know.
I never had an argument. Just pointing out the flaws in yours.
What’s my argument? What are the flaws?? I’m listening.
If you don’t even know then I guess you’re just gibbering nonsense.
Cool, thanks. Very helpful. Loving talking to you, it’s been so constructive.
the fact that I can digest meat at all suggests that I am an omnivore
it is wonderful that you are vegan but please shut the fuck up trying to pretend that it is humanity’s natural state
Okay I won’t pretend.
I’ll cite factual studies instead.
"Are human beings herbivores, carnivores, or omnivores? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
Although most of us conduct our lives as omnivores, in that we eat flesh as well as vegetables and fruits, human beings have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores (2). The appendages of carnivores are claws; those of herbivores are hands or hooves. The teeth of carnivores are sharp; those of herbivores are mainly flat (for grinding). The intestinal tract of carnivores is short (3 times body length); that of herbivores, long (12 times body length). Body cooling of carnivores is done by panting; herbivores, by sweating. Carnivores drink fluids by lapping; herbivores, by sipping. Carnivores produce their own vitamin C, whereas herbivores obtain it from their diet. Thus, humans have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores."
Anyway if you want to pretend that the current factory farm hellscape is humanitie’s natural state, you go ahead because unlike you I have a philosophy of live and let live.
Cannot help but notice that that paragraph does not contain the word “omnivore” anywhere except the first sentence.
The fact that the human body is not especially well suited to killing prey with its bare hands and tearing flesh off of bones is more indicative of tool use and the fact that we cook our food than anything else, and even if it weren’t, herbivores get sick when they eat meat. Carnivores get sick when they eat plants. Humans get sick from neither; therefore, definitionally, we are omnivores.
I do agree that the state of factory farming is apalling. I can also imagine futures in which factory farming does not exist besides the one where no human eats meat ever again.
i’m not gonna say it again. i applaud your decision to go vegan, but please, for the love of everything you hold sacred, stop pretending your choice is the only correct one. You say you can live and let live. Demonstrate this please.
Such as this herbivore? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg2mJ4veuAY
Flat teeth, ate meat.
Panda: sharp teeth, eats plants.
Almost like your argument falls apart at the slightest bit of scrutiny. Anyway
My argument? OP’s argument was that people not having “carnivore teeth” means people shouldn’t eat meat.
I see you agree that that is a nonsense argument.
OP didn’t make an argument, OP posted a meme poking fun at people who unironically say things like that. In response the OP of this particular thread unironically said something like that. I’m just having a good time.
Who is saying that? Maybe OP should be posting this in response to them, not somewhere unrelated with no context.
If OP isn’t making an argument then this is the definition of a Strawman: OP created an argument to disprove with their meme.
Dude if I had a nickel for every dumb prick who pointed at their little bitty canines and said some variation of “see, we have sharp teeth, we’re carnivores” I’d have a lot of nickels.
OP didn’t create this argument. The world is full of things that have nothing to do with you. Instead of getting bent out of shape about it you can just move along. You don’t get the reference? Keep scrolling, it’s not for you.
I’m not the one getting bent out of shape here.