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      They’re part of the “If I’m doing nothing then I’m part of the problem” crowd.

      Otherwise known as “moralizing busybodies”

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      People who mentioned veganism: Just you, Bud.

      Downvote if you’re secretly attracted to your own dad.

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          1. Spin up your own instance
          2. Set up a bunch of bot accounts to spam downvotes at people that post inflammatory garbage on popular communities
          3. We all profit
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            I’m sorry, my reply is inflammatory garbage? Not the person calling out vegans in a comment under a meme? Yeah, okay.

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          Here, take mine since I’m not attracted to my dad. 🤣 (I applied it for you to the other guy… Maybe I am attracted to my dead dad- I do eat meat and that’s obscene according to these vegans)

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          Did you try just hitting downvote again? 😅

          So, I didn’t see OPs username. I heretofore concede that someone did mention it. I hope in time we can both take what we learned from this experience and incorporate it into our respective journeys. More importantly I hope this hasn’t permanently damaged our relationship. I’d hate to lose what we had.

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                That paper is making some absolutely ridiculously unscientific comparisons, and immediately ignores the existence of omnivores after flatly stating that most people eat an obvious diet. It’s absolute trash.

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                  I do concede there’s better sources to be found than the one I’ve provided. However I’m not convinced the effort would be worthwhile when everyone hates you just for questioning societal norms such as the mass incarceration and slaughter of sentient beings. The information is out there, personally I think I’m done with the abusive, downright mean DMs and replies. I tried good faith arguments, humor, matching energy, I realize it’s frivolous. People believe what they want to believe and feel attacked when you tell them different. Adam Conover taught me that and I’ll always hate him for it.

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                    For me, personally, I agree that the industrial meat industry is unethical and has to go. My push-back against the herbivore claims is purely from an objective standpoint. Putting aside objectivism, if humans are omnivores, it makes the moral argument stronger. You’d be telling people they have a choice and can choose to eat a more compassionate and ethical diet. (More energy efficient, too.) If people are herbivores, you get stuck in this weird argument about what humans are supposed to do instead of what we can choose to do.

                    I spent a lot of time as a vegan, and talked about my choices openly. (Stopped on account of health.) No one attacked me for them and it was because I stuck to irrefutable facts and never made the person I was talking to feel bad for their choices. I just showed them they could easily be a better human, if they wanted to be. Maybe that doesn’t feel like enough for you, but I felt that no one ever changed their position on a personal matter because someone else made them feel attacked. They always dig in their heels.

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                those of herbivores are hands or hooves

                And then it just completely goes downhill from here… Show me a single fucking herbivore that has hands. 👎

                Also you realize it’s possible that creatures can evolve into omnivores from prolong environmental pressure, right? Are you not familiar with evolution? Did you sleep through life science?

                Also, you realize that from that same exact source there are thousands of papers and studies contradicting that paper. You might as well become a farmer with how well you pick cherries.

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                  Show me a single fucking herbivore that has hands.

                  I mean pandas and gorillas have already been mentioned. Koalas. A quick search turns up tons of new and old world monkeys. So I guess lots of fucking herbivores have hands. 👍

                  Also you realize it’s possible that creatures can evolve into omnivores from prolong environmental pressure, right?

                  I mean, of course. Would you be willing to concede that herbivorous traits could be selected for over time due to the same factors?

                  You might as well become a farmer with how well you pick cherries.

                  That was a pretty sick burn, ngl!