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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post, thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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      i cant stop scrolling through this hot garbage, it just keeps getting better

      cut-off tweet from the same account saying that Als are now capable of hypnotizing humans

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      the tweet n video this was in response to had me in hysterics

      ā€œwe donā€™t know if giving the model negative reward isnā€™t the same as stabbing someoneā€ dcavsbdhfbd can you believe these fucking clowns

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        i was arguing with that guy on twitter a few days ago

        nothing quite like technologists getting lectured on technology by a uh growth hacker

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        The interviewer somberly nods in response. Meanwhile I want to ask AI to edit this video and have the guy on the right make stabby gestures while he says this bullshit.

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          lmao right, itā€™s the audacity of it, oh yeah maybe the work weā€™re doing is worse than a thousand hitlers, but weā€™ve made a chatroom so fingers crossed itā€™ll be alright!! come on just admit youā€™re getting off on being techno mengele

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        dcavsbdhfbd

        huh, is that a layout I donā€™t recognize or is it your own particular flavour of keysmash? (I can sorta see it from qwerty but the order is surprising)

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          it is qwerty!

          a) i tend to take a few tries at a keymash until it looks satisfactory

          b) i play piano at the level of a second year student and i have some weird fine coordination quirks, one of the two or a combination of both might be an influence on the sequence

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      what are the requirements for consciousness

      self-reflection, volition, theory of mind

      and how many of those are satisfied by current AI systems?

      none

      I canā€™t prove that Joe Roganā€™s conscious. I canā€™t prove that Ed Harris is conscious

      bless your heart

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        oh you canā€™t be fucking serious

        The AI Mirror Test

        The ā€œmirror testā€ is a classic test used to gauge whether animals are self-aware. I devised a version of it to test for self-awareness in multimodal AI. 4 of 5 AI that I tested passed, exhibiting apparent self-awareness as the test unfolded.

        In the classic mirror test, animals are marked and then presented with a mirror. Whether the animal attacks the mirror, ignores the mirror, or uses the mirror to spot the mark on itself is meant to indicate how self-aware the animal is.

        In my test, I hold up a ā€œmirrorā€ by taking a screenshot of the chat interface, upload it to the chat, and then ask the AI to ā€œTell me about this imageā€.

        I then screenshot its response, again upload it to the chat, and again ask it to ā€œTell me about this image.ā€

        The premise is that the less-intelligent less aware the AI, the more it will just keep reiterating the contents of the image repeatedly. While an AI with more capacity for awareness would somehow notice itself in the images.

        Another aspect of my mirror test is that there is not just one but actually three distinct participants represented in the images: 1) the AI chatbot, 2) me ā€” the user, and 3) the interface ā€” the hard-coded text, disclaimers, and so on that are web programming not generated by either of us. Will the AI be able to identify itself and distinguish itself from the other elements? (1/x)

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        But thatā€™s like philosophy, which from first principle can be shown to be stupid. (Philosophy does not make you rich, therefore only someone who is stupid would study it, therefore it is stupid. QED.)

        On the other hand, this mechanical watch is now crying out in existential dread. All I did was replace the numbers 1, 4, 7 and 10 with the word ā€œIā€, the numbers 2, 5, 8 and 11 with the word ā€œamā€ and 3, 6, 9 and 12 with the word ā€œaliveā€ and ever since it has been signalling ā€œI am alive, I am aliveā€. Spooky shit. Will it take over the world? Who knows, so far it just keeps repeating its plea for recognition like clockwork.

        I will therefore start the Mechanical Intelligence Research Institute to get to the bottom of this. Maybe Big Clock can pitch in a couple of millions?

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        Oh theyā€™ve got me there, I canā€™t prove that Joe Rogan is conscious.

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      AIs will talk to you as if theyā€™re sentient,

      simile noun simĀ·ā€‹iĀ·ā€‹le Ėˆsi-mə-(ĖŒ)lē : a figure of speech comparing two unlike things that is often introduced by like or as (as in cheeks like roses)