If you have a Tesla and you’re worried about this it’s probably worth enabling pin to drive. Not sure about all the other brands that are impacted but hopefully they have a similar feature.
Couldn’t a Model 3/Y owner also just disable the phonekey and use the NFC cards? NFC only broadcasts a few inches right? I would think that would be VERY hard for a malicious actor to capture with relay/replay attack.
Following that, is it possible to use the Phonekey only in NFC mode or is it always broadcasting on Bluetooth LE and NFC?
Archive link plz
Here you go: archive.is
As a Tesla owner I’m probably biased, but I do not fear these attacks at all. Thing is, because a Tesla is so connected to the mothership (and I definitely realise that’s both a good and a bad thing), chances of a thief actually being able to use or sell the vehicle are very slim. Tesla always knows where their cars are, and urning off GPS and LTE ruins 90% of the features in the car. I think thieves know this because I haven’t heard of any Tesla getting stolen and not being retrieved (but n=1).
Used Tesla battery is actually in demand though. Is the exploit is accessible enough, eventually thieves would target it to sell the battery in the used market for electric car conversion kits, solar power storage kits, etc.
Put me on the waiting list, I’d buy a battery that’s been strategically re-located from some rich fucks car to my solar setup.
STEAL - Strategic Transfer of Equipment to Alternate Locations
It’s not uncommon for cars to be stolen and stripped for parts, it gets rid of the risk of trackers.
but I do not fear these attacks at all. chances of a thief actually being able to use or sell the vehicle are very slim.
Dreamer. Even thieves know what they are doing.
Cars are actually stolen. Teslas are actually stolen. That’s no news.
The news is (once more) how Massa Elon was bragging about technology and didn’t deliver it.
Teslas are at or very near the bottom of often stolen car lists, by a wide margin.
So? It’s not quite the point here, but it seems that even thieves got some taste.
urning off GPS and LTE ruins 90% of the features in the car.
The main purpose of a car is “driving”, which you can do. Unless you cannot start a Tesla without LTE, which would be very stupid.
You can also always strip a car for parts. Teslas are not magically safe from that.
What kind of tech do you need for this?
An appropriate SDR, or a prefab kit you can buy online.
Relay attacks on keyless systems are nothing new, plenty of documentation and articles you can use to read up on the specifics.
People usually use flipper zero (banned in Canada) to play with these kind of stuff. Not sure if this exploit can be implemented in flipper zero though.
It cannot. I know the FlipperZero and it can’t do any relay stuff.
Can the Twitter LLM explain the process?
