• Psiczar
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    5 months ago

    As an atheist I believe Jesus existed, I just don’t think he was the son of god or that he was resurrected.

    It would have been far easier to start a religion around a real man with actual followers than if he was a figment of someone’s imagination.

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      5 months ago

      I like to picture my Jesus as some kind desert hippie that some people embellished to tall tales proportions in order to give people living in that harsh environment some hope and meaning.

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        I like to think of Jesus with like giant eagles wings and singing lead vocals for lynyrd skynyrd with like an Angel Band, and I’m in the front row, and I’m hammered drunk.

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      IIRC, the religion didn’t get anywhere is Palestine after Jesus supposedly died and it wasn’t until decades later that it picked up in and around Greece thanks to Paul, but no one was around that saw any of the events attributed to Jesus - it was all heresay.

      I mean the bible is how many pages and how much of it actually takes place during Jesus’s life? And what is the timespan of the small part that does? Like a year? And the 4 gospels that talk about it are all rehashings of the same stories (more or less) and even contradict each other at times.

      That’s a story with a lot of gaps and plot holes to base a belief system around - and that doesn’t even include all the baggage and hate that comes along with it.

      People nowadays lose their mind and make death threats to the creators of stories that don’t fix or create new plot holes in canon. And we’re supposed to smile, nod, and happily accept one of the worst constructed stories ever just because some old white men that live the opposite way they tell us to live say so?

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        5 months ago

        There aren’t any contradictions between the Gospels

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            5 months ago

            Skimmed through some of these, like this which isn’t even a contradiction.

            Even here you can see that it even shows a verse where Jesus drinks the vinegar in two gospels yet claim it’s s contradiction because He didn’t receive the wine.

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              What about all the other ones? There’s dozens. Including ones where there’s no room for interpretation like with those ones.

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                Any examples? I’m not going to go through every single one

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                  5 months ago

                  One simple one was one apostle saying Jesus told them to go barefoot and with no staff and another saying he told them staff + sandals.

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                    Luke and Matthew were referring to acquiring or buying a staff, Mark was referring to simply going as you are. The emphasis was that Jesus didn’t want them to excessively prepare for the journey, but simply go out with the sandals they were wearing and a walking stick they had on them.

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                5 months ago

                Really? You know it wasn’t originally written in English, right?

                That’s like saying we cannot be certain about what happens in Harry Potter because it has been translated into 88 different languages 🤦