I love the Bajorans and their struggles, both externally and within their own politics and religion. I think most people who got bored with the Bajorans were just hoping for more battles against the Borg.
They might’ve even been turned off by the focus on religion in the first place. Roddenberry was famously outspoken against religion (due to rejecting his upbringing). I think TOS and TNG went pretty far towards cultivating a large audience of atheist and agnostic fans. Many of these would’ve been pretty turned off by the depiction of religious characters in anything but a negative light. When you go from being raised religious to being an atheist who rejects all that, it’s hard to walk back to being neutral or open-minded about religion once again.
The Palestinian struggle would get more sympathy if Hamas wasn’t involved. Hamas is delighted with the high civilian death toll because of the backlash against Israel from people who place far more value on human lives than they do.
IRL there are much more complex and serious outcomes which cannot be pre-determined. Hindsight will not save the day as consequences are terrible.
For example, here is some imaginary bullshit that will never happen…
“Things that will never happen for 500, Alex”
<imaginary BS/>
I wish North America or South America or even Europe can setup an Ashkenazi Independent Autonomous Area … perhaps Alsace-Lorraine ? Or somewhere between Poland and Russia ? Any and all Israeli and Philistine citizens wishing to live in peace and harmony can and should move there and re-integrate back into Europe.
Palestinian land should be returned to the original settlers and descendants of those lands since the fall of the Roman Empire.
Hopefully a Joint-UN-led Area of Non-Violence should be established stretching from the Mediterranean to the borders of Pakistan. No “Country” or “Border” or anything. Just Non-Violence DMZ. Any weapons or violence will be considered Death-Sentence through International-Court-for-War-Crimes.
<end-of-imaginary BS/>
We can all dream up solutions that all sound good, but IRL isnt like that. Things dont happen as they should or as we want them to play out.
In the Americas? Shouldn’t people in the Americas be returning the land to the indigenous Americans and returning to the homes of our European ancestors?
By the way, the last place my grandmother lived in Scotland was turned into a Tesco. Should I bomb it since I have an indigenous right to my homeland?
If you like to go bombing in Tesco Scotland I am sure the Scottish would be cheering for you as well :'D
Also real life isnt as simple as “return the land to the previous owners who are all dead and wiped out and the remaining mixed descendants are mostly 1/16th or 1/64th or some piddling fractions of the original settlers”
It is easy to ask for Forgiveness rather than ask for Permission.
Imagine if European Settlers " IF you already are on this land , can we get permission to enslave, infect and eradicate you? Please with sugar and cherry on top ?" AND JESUS HIMSELF APPEARED … " Die all you Bigotted, Misbegotten Sons of Satan! " … Just imagine the Vatican and Church of England catching Fire Spontaneously and restoring Christianity to its roots!!!
"Things that Never Happened for 5,000,000 Alex! "
:-D Comedy gold if every wrongdoer got their just desserts instant Karma style ! :-D
Hypothetical and IRL are very very different. Other peoples guilt doesnt apply to people who never committed the sin. This is exactly the reason I “made up” a situation and you had to prove my point so adequately. “Things that happened but I never said it had to happen for 500, Alex”.
Also, by your analogue, you consider Europeans as barbaric enough to replicate “the trail of tears”. Dude chill. No one is solving the middle-east by implementing “hypothetical” scenarios. It wont work IRL. So chill out.
The Palestinian struggle is one source of inspiration for the Bajorans. It boggles my mind when I read comments that ‘Bajoran’ episodes are boring.
I love the Bajorans and their struggles, both externally and within their own politics and religion. I think most people who got bored with the Bajorans were just hoping for more battles against the Borg.
They might’ve even been turned off by the focus on religion in the first place. Roddenberry was famously outspoken against religion (due to rejecting his upbringing). I think TOS and TNG went pretty far towards cultivating a large audience of atheist and agnostic fans. Many of these would’ve been pretty turned off by the depiction of religious characters in anything but a negative light. When you go from being raised religious to being an atheist who rejects all that, it’s hard to walk back to being neutral or open-minded about religion once again.
The Palestinian struggle would get more sympathy if Hamas wasn’t involved. Hamas is delighted with the high civilian death toll because of the backlash against Israel from people who place far more value on human lives than they do.
Fiction SHOULD NOT be equated to real-life.
IRL there are much more complex and serious outcomes which cannot be pre-determined. Hindsight will not save the day as consequences are terrible.
For example, here is some imaginary bullshit that will never happen…
“Things that will never happen for 500, Alex”
<imaginary BS/>
I wish North America or South America or even Europe can setup an Ashkenazi Independent Autonomous Area … perhaps Alsace-Lorraine ? Or somewhere between Poland and Russia ? Any and all Israeli and Philistine citizens wishing to live in peace and harmony can and should move there and re-integrate back into Europe.
Palestinian land should be returned to the original settlers and descendants of those lands since the fall of the Roman Empire.
Hopefully a Joint-UN-led Area of Non-Violence should be established stretching from the Mediterranean to the borders of Pakistan. No “Country” or “Border” or anything. Just Non-Violence DMZ. Any weapons or violence will be considered Death-Sentence through International-Court-for-War-Crimes.
<end-of-imaginary BS/>
We can all dream up solutions that all sound good, but IRL isnt like that. Things dont happen as they should or as we want them to play out.
In the Americas? Shouldn’t people in the Americas be returning the land to the indigenous Americans and returning to the homes of our European ancestors?
By the way, the last place my grandmother lived in Scotland was turned into a Tesco. Should I bomb it since I have an indigenous right to my homeland?
If you like to go bombing in Tesco Scotland I am sure the Scottish would be cheering for you as well :'D
Also real life isnt as simple as “return the land to the previous owners who are all dead and wiped out and the remaining mixed descendants are mostly 1/16th or 1/64th or some piddling fractions of the original settlers”
It is easy to ask for Forgiveness rather than ask for Permission.
Imagine if European Settlers " IF you already are on this land , can we get permission to enslave, infect and eradicate you? Please with sugar and cherry on top ?" AND JESUS HIMSELF APPEARED … " Die all you Bigotted, Misbegotten Sons of Satan! " … Just imagine the Vatican and Church of England catching Fire Spontaneously and restoring Christianity to its roots!!!
"Things that Never Happened for 5,000,000 Alex! "
:-D Comedy gold if every wrongdoer got their just desserts instant Karma style ! :-D
So the trail of tears is what sounds good to you.
Hypothetical and IRL are very very different. Other peoples guilt doesnt apply to people who never committed the sin. This is exactly the reason I “made up” a situation and you had to prove my point so adequately. “Things that happened but I never said it had to happen for 500, Alex”.
Also, by your analogue, you consider Europeans as barbaric enough to replicate “the trail of tears”. Dude chill. No one is solving the middle-east by implementing “hypothetical” scenarios. It wont work IRL. So chill out.