• Tristaniopsis
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    4 months ago

    Plus the fact that Jesus wasn’t a real person, but a complete fabrication.

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      4 months ago

      I go with Hitchens’ take; the ridiculous census that’s shoehorned in seems like an effort to reconcile a real person with the prophecies. Jesus was likely a real person whose life has been exaggerated and built upon to the point of legend.

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        I’ll post this twice to address different replies.

        https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?si=BOMT6GovxV_1ImkF

        Very interesting lecture and the guy says no one has provided any proof that there was in fact a real person called Jesus at the time. All the ‘proof’ relies on other people claiming that there’s proof / and or pointing to the Bible.

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        4 months ago

        Not trying to pick a fight, but can you point to these records?

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          I can not unfortunately.

          That’s why I led with I believe, I just remember hearing about it.

          Let me finish my coffee and get woke up and I will try to do some poking around. :)

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            Don’t sweat it. Watch (or listen to) the link I posted and then consider.

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              Ima be real.

              I barely cared about this to make a 30 second google search.

              There is the slightest possibility that I would have clicked a 5 minute video, with an interesting thumbnail, and watched it if the person was interesting in the first 30 seconds, and that is where the possibilities end.

              I spent more than 5 minutes trying to nail just the right amount of snark and sass vs funny vs respectfulness in this comment.

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                All good. The guy is an academic who researched as many resources from the time as he could, for his phd. He says there’s no actual evidence for a real person called Jesus. Even the ‘disciples’ admit in their writing that it’s made up.

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        I’ll post this twice to address different replies.

        https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?si=BOMT6GovxV_1ImkF

        Very interesting lecture and the guy says no one has provided any proof that there was in fact a real person called Jesus at the time. All the ‘proof’ relies on other people claiming that there’s proof / and or pointing to the Bible.

        Yes I’ve just read the Wikipedia link you’ve posted but it doesn’t actually point to non-religious sources. All these things are like the Spider-Man meme.

        AFAIK there are no Roman administration records of Pontius Pilate executing sone dude called Jesus.

        It’s all made up later on.