Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.
From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.
PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.
PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they’re unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm
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If the world went vegan, deforestation would drop by 94%, which by itself would achieve 23% of the climate mitigation over a 15 year period.
Global farmland would also be reduced by 75%, returned an area the size of China back to forest.
Meat alone accounts for 15% of the entire planets greenhouse gas emissions, and 75% of all food emissions.
It’s literally the best thing a single person can do for the climate, so what’s stopping you?
there is no reason to believe the land would be reforested
I’m going to start replying in bad faith like you do, single lines that don’t further the conversation, ready?
“Petition governments and farm owners to have it reforested”.
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I doubt it
Don’t doubt it.
without evidence, everyone should doubt it.
Nope, they shouldn’t. There’s boundless evidence.
if that were true you could present some
edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.
The burden of proof is on you. Provide evidence to the contrary.
I doubt it
https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets
Imagine you were on a debate stage and someone cited a stat and your debate reply was quietly going up to the mic and going “doubt it”.
You’re not pithy or glib, just lazy and boring.
I have no interest in debate. I’m just looking for the truth
No you aren’t.
this is just another accusation of bad faith, made in bad faith
Nope it isn’t, you’re wrong. Go vegan.
this relies on poore-nemecek 2018, which misuses it’s source data, didn’t even disclose this, and drew hyperbolic conclusions. but even if we could rely on that, there is still no reason to believe the land would not continue to be farmed
How does it misuse it’s source data?
LCAs are not transferable between studies. they compiled thousands of disparately methodized studies.
That’s called meta analysis, you’re wrong.
Reading the source papers will show that I’m right.
I just read the source papers, they prove I’m right.
I doubt it