QuietCupcake [any, they/them]

Those are copy cat sites. Fuck the Guardian but no, they’re not “lying.” Fmovies has been shut down for weeks now.

To be clear, where I was using the word “them” I meant the ruling class, not people in general. I see how some of my sentences weren’t worded well.

Bringing the ruling class into it… I don’t get it.

The idea that humans and human progress are inherently destructive is a lie told by the ruling class because getting people to believe it benefits them. Among other things it absolves them of their own crimes of destruction while simultaneously blaming the rest of us and our positive traits for those crimes. Somewhat ironically it’s a lie that helps lead to more destruction. See my other response to u/Sagittari.

Maybe could’ve done without the “The fuck are you on?” though I guess

To me it’s honestly a disgusting thing to claim that human progress and creativity is all based on destruction when in reality it’s the exact opposite. I don’t think my response was at all over the top given how harmful of a sentiment I think that is.

This stuff matters. Our biosphere is facing destruction at human hands but not because of our desire to create and build things, not because of our ability to express ourselves through our ingenuity to shape stone and wood. Those are not “destructive traits” but profoundly constructuve attributes. The destruction on the scale that it’s happening now to both the environment and much of human culture is because of, like I said, a social pathology that’s rooted in a system that rewards greed instead of trying to prevent it. It is a pathology that tries to equate greed and destruction with the creative aspects of human nature… just like the comment I responded to was doing. It’s a lie. Even if someone who has fallen for it may be well-meaning, they’re still perpetuating a very harmful (and destrctive!) misconception. So I think it deserves a strong, even emotionally-charged critical response.

The fuck are you on? “Destroy” stone? There is a vast gulf of difference between altering something, including in creative and constructive ways, and “destruction.” Most of us know the difference today and our ancestors certainly knew the difference. Human labor is in general a constructive force even if it can be used to destructive ends. Saying that “our willingness to destroy is the trait that powered our rise” is ahistorical nonsense and anti-human drivel. But it sounds an awful lot like the lying justifications the small subset of the current ruling class likes to use as an excuse and justification to exploit us and actually destroy our environment for the sake of their own narrow profit and greed. But that’s no more of a universal human trait than any other disgusting pathology that a select few are afflicted with.

What you’re doing isn’t realism, dipshit, it’s denialism.

I really hate to admit it, but I do use amazon quite a bit. It’s not “like me” to use a company or service I despise, despite the truth of “no ethical consumption under capitalism,” some businesses are just so evil that I feel it is wrong to support them in any way, even at the cost of convenience.

Here’s the situation though. I rely on foodstamp benefits to be able to afford food. Amazon allows me to buy food in bulk online with my ebt card. I also have a disability that makes it prohibitively difficult to go to the grocery store as often as I would need to, and bulk buying online also stretches the benefits I get much further than regular grocery visits. Walmart and Target also now allow ebt cards for online food shopping, but they didn’t used to, and they are evil as well!

I rationalize using amazon by telling myself that since mostly the only thing I get from them is food via ebt card, then it’s really just money going straight from my state government to amazon, and my state government (just like most others) gives amazon free money anyway, so I may as well get something out of their capitalist sweetheart deal too.

You have nothing to feel guilty about. Pirating is literally the more moral thing to do.

Sounds like your daughter is at just the right age to start learning a new language? (Half joking)

You misused a quotation mark?! How dare you!!! Everyone reading this could have actually thought NATO officially released a statement using the phrase ‘scawy Russian.’ (I hope I didn’t misuse those apostrophes right there.)

It wasn’t because the fascists thought they were fighting Jews (in this case), it was because most of the Chechen soldiers were Muslim, who also have prohibitions on using or consuming pigs. It was of course typical nazi-style petty racism, but it was specifically about targeting Muslims.

Not everyone in the audience is that.

For sure, and I hope it didn’t look like I was implying that. It’s why I made a point to say that “some of us reading” appreciate your commentary. The “lying, willfully ignorant” thing was referring specifically to Unruffled and empireOfLove who you and robinnn were replying to respectively. The long process of questioning propaganda and the widening cracks that you describe is similar to my own experience, and I even commented recently about how the purpose of debating people in these online threads is rarely to change the mind of the person you’re arguing with, but rather to speak to the audience and plant the seeds that their doubt will hopefully grow from over time.

It’s not that they “don’t have the balls” to do the right thing, it’s that they have a vested interest in doing the wrong thing. The US isn’t just failing to prevent genocide or punish those responsible, they are helping to conduct it.

I just want to thank you and @[email protected] for the time and effort you put into these heavily-sourced and informative comments. Even if these lying, willfully ignorant shitlibs can’t appreciate it because it so clearly demonstrates how wrong they are and how little they know, some of us reading do appreciate it. I’ve learned a lot as a result and am better equipped to help others who might be willing to try to better understand the situation too.

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I think it still has highest number of posts and comments per day or something? It’s no longer the highest number in terms of users, but there is some basic metric of activity where hexbear still is quantifiably at the top. But anyway you’re right about the quality, that’s what’s important.

Even though I see the pin icon next to the title at the top of this page, I don’t see this thread stickied on the front page or on c/movies. To find it, I had to search hexbear for “Sunday” and sort by new. This isn’t the only time, it’s common for the movie threads. And I’ve seen people in hextube mention that they couldn’t find the thread for movie nights too, so I know I’m not the only one. What is up with that?

I do see the nomination thread for September still stickied on c/movies.

Glad to help. Truth be told, I got the links myself from someone either on hexbear or lemmygrad. And the info might help get through to your colleague, sometimes the “right sources,” like from characters in their precious ACU, actually can make an impact.

“Uh sure, I’m not going to question these lies because here is yet another set of lies I already don’t question that confirms the first set of lies. Checkmate, commie!” -You

Not to mention the lengths their people have to go to if they want to leave.

Why might they have to go to such lengths? Hmmm…

“Plenty of North Koreans leave and live in China with no problem. The big reason it is so difficult for them to leave in general isn’t because they are being held prisoner there by the DPRK government, it’s because of restrictions imposed by the US and UN making it impossible for them to live most anywhere else.”

United States:

“5. North Korean Overseas Workers (OP8): Requires countries to expel all North Korean laborers earning income abroad immediately but no later than 24 months later (end of 2019).”

United Nations:

“Strengthens the ban on providing work authorizations for DPRK nationals by requiring Member States to repatriate all DRPK nationals earning income and all DPRK government safety oversight attachés monitoring DPRK workers abroad within their jurisdiction within 24 months from 22 December 2017.”

Meanwhile the DPRK has no official restriction on the people’s free movement.

That’s why visitors are heavily monitored and often end up being detained and taken prisoner

People visit there all the fucking time without issue, but you can keep comforting yourself with more lies like that so you don’t have to confront reality. You’re really proving you have no curiousity and no will to examine your misconceptions. Here’s another vid I might have included in my other comment, this one about visiting North Korea. Not that you actually watched or have any intention of watching them, but this one is short and comedic, so maybe even someone with zero interest in intellectual honesty might watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E

Surely the signs of a healthy and stable country.

Yeah, and hellholes like the US have such health and stability that they have the most prisoners in absolute terms and per capita by far where their ethnic minorities are murdered by their militarized police death squads with impunity. And why soldiers from the US are now defecting to North Korea because of the insane racism and oppression they face in the US.

Westerners are the most propagandized people on the planet.