There’s also the fact that liberal protests don’t tend to be armed, (sort of goes hand-in-hand with liberals hating guns,) but white supremacist protests tend to be heavily armed. People noticed during the civil rights era that unarmed protests got violently busted; Cops had no qualms about firing into unarmed crowds to get them to disperse.

But heavily armed protests were politely watched from across the street. Because if you fire into an armed crowd, you may take out two or three protestors but then the entire rest of the protest can return fire.

This is exactly why the Black Panthers got started. People recognized that armed protests were allowed to continue, so they began arming protestors.

Anyone keen enough to be a police officer/politician/CEO should on no account be given the job.

Having to switch costumes would be such a pain in the ass for them.

There has also been a tendency for progressive protest movements to get extremely derailed by bad-faith actors subverting the plans, messaging and outcome of the events, seeding bad messages or inciting violence.

While this isn’t necessarily the fault of the protestors, the groups have been terrible about focusing on message and enforcing guidelines for how to safely protest and stay on message, so it’s really hard to separate out these saboteurs and point to them as the problem-starters.

I have said for a long time that the left needs better community organization and better leaders, not just in action movements and marches, but generally on a community level, there are a lot of people committing the same sin as the right, which is attaching to the progressive cause for the performative expression and storyline narrative only, and getting lost in the conflict not the message and goal. Performative progressivism is going to be the thing that sinks movements every time because it’s so easy to poke holes in the half-ass campaigns and the people involved don’t really care enough to push back in an intelligent way, as long as they have their in-groups to retreat to and feel validated and comforted by their community.

This started to inspire me to organize a protest and not a social media stunt. I’m behind the idea of a “revolution” but knowing the fundamentals of protesting is honestly eye opening. We can’t just “fight back” blindly, we need to think, we need to plan, and we need to execute our demands.

Article is sort of right but also seems aimed at discouraging people. Generally seems to be the goal that site, to promote a center right agenda.

Modern protest have little cohesion because Americans have little cohesion. It has no leaders bc any leaders are swept off to jail. It’s a big part of why things suck so much. That article is missing any analysis of why. It’s frankly anti protest propaganda and so are you.

The point of protest is to upset status quo, as a demonstration for attention to grievances.

To imply that you’re doing it wrong is some next generation privilege shit.

What??

It’s disheartening to see America using tactics against its own people to create division and steer us into becoming more like slave workers. The legacy of those intelligence agency methods is still evident today. Occupy Wall Street’s downfall due to infiltration and internal dissent is a prime example. The rise of intersectionality and identity politics, while important, has also diverted attention from the economic issues that affect everyone. It feels like the tree of liberty is withering away as the 1% continues to strengthen their hold.

To me, OWS failed because they lacked any sort of leadership or vision other than a list of grievances with no solutions.

They are so good at breaking up large ideological movements the white supremacists had to change their name from the KKK to MAGA

I agree with everything you said. I wish down voters would express their differences of view instead.

Are the tactics and procedures used to break down such documents leaked? Id love to read more about it, and I suppose it may be part of some of the leaks that happened in the last few years.

I’m interested in how exactly they do/did it, so I know what to watch out for.

Extremely unfun fact: before even the Jews, they came for LGBTQ+ people. The first major Nazi book burning was at the Institute For Sexuality which, apart from being a research institute dealing with all sorts of “nonstandard” sexuality in a scholarly rather than punitive manner, was also the world’s first trans clinic.

The reason it’s not mentioned is that Pastor Niemöller, being a conservative pastor, didn’t see anything wrong with the persecution and erasure of LGBTQ+ people.

One of the reasons it’s important to remember that the LGBTQ+ community were the first targets of concerted Nazi erasure even though they were far from the first targets of nazi hatred and slander is that the GOP are doing the same thing and they’ll go through the rest of the list too if they aren’t stopped.

We have a low tier propagandist in Russia who tweaked the last paragraph:

“And then they stopped coming. Because everything became normal.”

Jokes aside, last week he got accused of committing some kind of crime. Waiting for him to be jailed and the joke to be finished.

Before COINTELPRO became MO

I think anyone with a working brain has figured out that the police has a side,

May have something to do with the fact that the institution of police was designed from the ground up to be a fascist one.

That’s because many of them are off-duty cops. And why would you arrest your friends?

The white supremacists usually have a large number of firearms and actively use the second amendment.

Seems like the perfect situation for a hyper-militarized police force to me.

(Not to say I think the government should deploy a proto-military force against protests, but like, if they’re doing it anyway…)

I haven’t tried to prove or disprove this statement

Maybe do that before you form an opinion, and especially before you broadcast that opinion

In what bubble…the national stage?