flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
    • Petter1@lemm.ee
      2·
      7 months ago

      There are people that choose flatpak for some apps and the AUR for other apps I heard from a friend 🌚

    • ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip
      49·
      7 months ago

      I just want new packages and Tumbleweed sucks, and don’t even get me started on Fedora and their codec nonsense. Every time I tried Fedora I run into issues. You can’t even use their packaged version of VLC cause they don’t also package the correct version of ffmpeg. Fedora is a joke. Nobara even worse cause that one is outdated on top of it. Arch is the way and you are all wrong.

      • rollingflower@lemmy.kde.socialOPDeutsch
        4·
        7 months ago

        Agree on the Fedora problem, but the solution is pretty easy.

        # install the RPM packages, your system is auto detected, the packages take care of updating the repos
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

# enable cisco-openh264 to be sure
sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264

# install ffmpeg with allowerase
sudo dnf install ffmpeg --allowerasing

# or, if you just want videos, without uninstalling anything
sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld

        Thats basically it. On the Atomic variants, installing libavcodec-freeworld is just as easy, but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg. Or you just use uBlue where it is already done and default (this will also avoid any rpmfusion incompatibilities to happen on your device and on the server instead)

        Yes this is annoying, but you do that once and afterwards have a current release more stable than Arch, and an old-supported release that is even more stable.

        • ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip
          1·
          7 months ago

          but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg

          There we go, that’s probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That’s too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don’t count NixOS)

          And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an “it just works” distro like Mint, but it’s SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed.

      • jbk@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        7 months ago

        Thank software patents for the codec trouble, not Fedora / Red Hat. They just don’t want to get their asses sued for free software

        Anyway I can use VLC and ffmpeg just fine with RPMFusion, idk what ur issue is, but judging by that

        you are all wrong

        i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you.

        • ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip
          1·
          7 months ago

          They just don’t want to get their asses sued for free software

          How come the other distros don’t seem to care? Does it just come down to them being based in the US?. They can’t be the only distro mainly based in the US, can they? VLC would not play ANYTHING. That was installed from RPMFusion in Fedora Kinoite 39. But even IF it were to work, this whole RPMFusion thing is ridiculous. If I had to install a bunch of codecs and drivers from the AUR I would say the same about Arch. That would absolutely kill the distro for me.

          i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you.

          Hard to argue with that ;)

        • ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip
          2·
          7 months ago

          Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn’t like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying “Gnome sucks”. It’s obviously a matter of personal opinion.

            • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              2·
              7 months ago

              It’s an issue with zypper, if you ever updated your device, you did encounter it. Maybe you have never seen how fast Arch updates are in comparison.

              • Petter1@lemm.ee
                2·
                7 months ago

                Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I haven’t use that PC. On my TW PC I don’t know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC…

  • infeeeee@lemm.ee
    201·
    7 months ago

    If an AUR package wants to install 137 python dependencies, I usually search for a flatpak instead.

      • infeeeee@lemm.ee
        3·
        7 months ago

        Beside what @[email protected] wrote:

        • If the package wants to install an awful amount of dependencies it means those dependencies are only used by that package on my system. Flatpaks contains all dependencies, so the required disk space would be similar to the flatpak.
        • My feeling is flatpak install time is quicker in this case, to install 1 flatpak vs 138 AUR packages. I never measured it though.
        • I only do this if an insane amount of dependencies needed. Some dependencies are normal, if more than 50 than I think AUR is not an ideal way to distribute a software, or also include a -bin package.
        • If no flatpak available I still install the 137 dependencies, so nothing wrong with that, it’s simply the way I like to manage my system.
      • Fatih Özsoy@mastodon.social
        42·
        7 months ago

        @pineapplelover @infeeeee No, some people just don’t want to install tons of packages just for an application they want to use to. The more package means the higher chance for system breakage. It’s better checking dependencies and pkgbuild before install

        • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
          3·
          7 months ago

          Yeah but I thought if I installed it through AUR natively then it would be better since if other programs need those same dependencies, I wouldn’t have to install them again.

    • devilish666@lemmy.world
      3·
      7 months ago

      Personally i like chaotic-aur because it’s already pre compiled
      The only aur packages on my is system is stacer-bin (the only cleaner i trust other than bleachbit)

    • Petter1@lemm.ee
      2·
      7 months ago

      You can remove dependencies after install, at least in yay, I never do tho.

      • infeeeee@lemm.ee
        4·
        7 months ago

        That’s install dependencies (in PKGBUILD they are called makedepends), python programs usually need them for runtime (depends in PKGBUILD). On the main page of a package they are listed together, but on the PKGBUILD they are separate

        • Petter1@lemm.ee
          2·
          7 months ago

          😁 I know (well that about two types of dependencies)

          That python dependency seem more a upstream issue, not a AUR issue, isn’t it? I mean, if I install the same app from another source, it still needs those dependencies, isn’t it?

  • PINKeHamton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    51·
    7 months ago

    I have just had bad experiences with flatpack so I don’t want to use it and the aur has the stuff I need and flatpack dose not

    • taanegl@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 months ago

      I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Flatpaks/Flathub and bad experiences with AUR/nixpkgs.

      Fedora also has it’s own Flatpak repo now with it’s own runtime.