Twitter is threatening legal action against the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a nonprofit that researches hate speech and content moderation on social media platforms.

The letter from Twitter’s lawyers alleges that CCDH’s research publications are intended to ‘harm Twitter’s business by driving advertisers away from the platform with incendiary claims.’

This is a pretty bold move from Twitter, especially considering that CCDH is a well-respected organization that has been doing this kind of research for years. And it’s especially ironic coming from Elon Musk, who has said that he’s a ‘free speech absolutist.’

But Musk has also shown that he’s sensitive to criticism, so it’s not surprising that he’s taking this kind of action against CCDH

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      I really think all the artists still on there are shooting themselves in the foot in the long run.

      And that obviously has already started with the direct messaging restrictions that messes with contacting commissioners.

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        If they leave Twitter, where are they going to go? Artists need to promote themselves. They sure aren’t coming here to promote themselves. Twitter has always been where people go to keep up with their favorite artists whether it be art, music, comedy, etc. If they leave then they’re shooting themselves in the foot. Twitter is still massively popular even if you don’t agree. Same goes for Reddit.

        People who have made a living promoting themselves on Twitter aren’t going to leave it just because Musk is a dumbass. Most artists as you mention typical have business emails in their profiles. Until Musk does something to fuck with their income, they’re staying.

        It’s the same shit when people on Reddit say they’re abandoning COD this year because the devs pissed them off only for the game to have the highest sales ever. You, me, Lemmy users, and Reddit haters are just a fraction of the people who use those sites.

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            Mastodon is a good pick to keep in the back pocket but it doesn’t have mass adoption yet, and all the others are art-dedicated websites. The advantage of Twitter was that it made it easy for their art to be shared widely but linked back to their account so that regular people just browsing would get to know their work and maybe follow them through it. Anyone regularly browsing those other websites are already art enthusiasts so that’s not so effective to expand their audience.

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              It won’t have adoption until it gets adopted. And the only way for that to happen is for people to adopt it of course. What probably needs to happen is for someone to write a simple app to either post to both at the same time or something that someone could run themselves or pay an inexpensive nominal fee for someone else to run for them to mirror their posts.

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                That was made harder because Twitter now charges for their API. Some people are trying to do both manually, but they can’t entirely move away since their livelihood depends on maintaining their audience.

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                  We did these sort of things before apis. They will be possible when all apis are gone still.

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          They (celebrities) would have the biggest pull to get people moved onto one of these new services.

          I know nothing short of the names as I don’t need that kind of app or service but if one of these new places like blue sky or mastadon had an easy way to get signed up for the masses then someone like Taylor Swift saying she was signing up and to join her there as she drops twixxter then millions of people would sign up in days.

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            The issue is that not every artist is a celebrity.

            Sure Taylor Swift can move a lot of people, but some upcoming niche artist can barely hold onto the little audience they built even by staying there.

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            This happened with Threads. It was literally 1 click from your instagram account and you now have a threads account and insta follow requests to everyone you follow on instagram. It started off great in terms of “sign ups”, but traffic fell off a cliff.

            Twitter is in the “too big to fail” category still.

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          “Twitter has always where people go to keep up with their favorite artists…”

          Somehow fandoms managed to exist before 2007.

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          From what I have seen/heard from people still on there, there’s a new setting that only allows you to receive DMs from “verified users” (i.e. Twitter Blue subscribers). You are automatically opted into this and have to opt out to receive DMs from others.

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            You are automatically opted into this and have to opt out to receive DMs from others.

            100% incorrect. I just looked and it’s not enabled, it’s not opt out.

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              Really? My friend was having issues with it and another friend instructed that she got automatically opted into it and had to manually disable that setting.

              Unless that’s old news and was later changed.

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                All I can say is that I’ve never disabled it and it’s disabled.

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                  Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was changed to be opt-in (if it wasn’t in the first place) pretty quickly, considering that seems to be the theme on the platform these days. :D Make stupid change, bleed users, alter stupid change to be less stupid.

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      On the upside, it’s mostly morons and assholes. The reporting that’s got Musk snorting rails of battery pack acid and pursing his oh-so-ruby lips basically addresses the stark increase in both the assholes and the vastly more numerous waterheads they manipulate and grift. I’ve looked at #X from others’ accounts and it’s hilarious. I’d feel guilty if I were to sign up. Undignified. Embarrassing. Icky.

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      Why? It’s mostly positive experience for me. I don’t quite see why someone else not liking Twitter means I shouldn’t be there either.

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        Someone else not liking it, sure. But if it’s doing nothing about hateful speech and death threats then by continuing to use it you appear to be fine with that.

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          I guess in a way I’m fine with that. I tolerate it. As long as it stays out of my feed atleast. I don’t see it being being something that Twitter is somehow especially riddled with compared to other social media companies or even Lemmy for that matter.

          If I were to boycott every company that does something I don’t agree with I’d pretty much be living alone in the forest eating berries and mushrooms.

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            No one is saying boycott all. They’re just saying boycott some. And that’s a bridge too far for you.