• donald@kbin.social
    8·
    1 year ago

    If this is how the admins choose to act, so fucking be it. I’ll deltree my 12 year old account and never go back. As it stands, the fediverse is already my new home, and the users who decide to remain on reddit can explain to all the new users what the fuck went wrong.

    • Bostondrivingisworse@kbin.social
      5·
      1 year ago

      The only people on reddit who are against the blackout are conservative assholes who hate picket lines. They’re going to be the majority of remaining users.

      • kestrel7@kbin.social
        5·
        1 year ago

        JUST LIKE TWITTER! I love that the new internet comes in two flavors, “open source hippie (doesn’t work well)” and “vaguely fascist (also doesn’t work that well tbh)”

      • AnonymousLlama@kbin.social
        4·
        1 year ago

        Also the people who say “well I’m not using third party apps so who cares anyway”

        The thing they should care about is how reddit has handled this situation. Imagine what nonsense they’ll come up with next if they’re willing to turf away some of the oldest and most dedicated users

        • mabd@kbin.social
          4·
          1 year ago

          Exactly this. I’ve used RIF since forever, so RIF is Reddit for me. Even if they take it all back and everything goes back to normal, there’s still a bad taste in my mouth. Reddit is clearly against the community, literally fighting it. Not even trying to find some sort of compromise or anything. So screw it, kbin seems pretty cozy so far, to be honest.

          • Varyag@kbin.social
            5·
            1 year ago

            Honestly, even if they walk everything back, I still know they want to kill it eventually. Might as well already make my way over to other places like here, and stay with them.
            I don’t know, but I already think I like it here.

        • Lells@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          I actually used the newer official desktop site, and really didn’t mind it at all. What I minded was Reddit acting like their company was Reddit. No, you just provided the website and infrastructure. You were not Reddit. WE were Reddit. And we liked Reddit as it was, not what you are turning it into to make a quick buck on your IPO. We didn’t appreciate providing ALL the value and then being treated as if we weren’t important or to be listened to. I’m tired of good sites being whored out for mega-bucks and then transformed into another sub-par lowest common denominator that is a ghost of its former self. I’ll skip the wait and pain of watching that happen yet again, and leave now.

          So yeah, I wasn’t a third party app user, but in the long run I’ll still be effected by everything corporate management is doubling down on right now.

          • killick@kbin.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            Here’s the first paragraph from Cory’s post:

            “Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.” Reddit is in step 4.

        • alertsleeper@vlemmy.net
          1·
          1 year ago

          Yeah they don’t see the point, wich is the trajectory of the platform.

          They are lying to everybody in order to push out of market the 3rd party apps, but that’s one side of it, they are also, effectively, forcing you as a user to use a worse app just for them to get more money by doing less.

      • JasSmith@kbin.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        Nah I’m “conservative” (at least that’s what they call me on Reddit now), and most of us support this blackout. The site has been hostile to diverse political opinions for a long time. Note how one of the largest subs, r/Politics, remained open the whole time. They are, by every metric, very left wing.

        Don’t let the silly culture war divide us on this one. We all think Reddit has jumped the shark.

        • BrambleDog@kbin.social
          5·
          1 year ago

          You only think /politics is left wing because they banned all the left wingers.

          Also, liberals aren’t left wingers. Have you ever heard an anarchist or a socialist talk about a liberal?

          • JasSmith@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            I hear what you’re arguing. People are much more complex than “left” and “right.” But, colloquially, the people on r/Politics, are left wing. They support abortion, and gay marriage, and trans people, and universal healthcare, and higher taxes, and a hundred other values typically shared by those on the left.

            Old school liberals are certainly different to what we see on the left today.

        • djmarcone@kbin.social
          3·
          1 year ago

          What they did to The_Donald where Spez edited comments to make the sub seem to be inciting violence, so he had an excuse to ban it, is a prime example and should be a red flag regardless of someone’s politics.

          The banning from several subs automatically of people who joined joke subs like “ChurchofCovid” is also a prime example.

          Very hostile to differing political opinions.

          I don’t think it’s a social media site any more, I think it’s a propaganda site and a data harvesting operation.

          • kestrel7@kbin.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            I don’t think it’s a social media site any more, I think it’s a propaganda site and a data harvesting operation.

            I agree, but I also think that most social media has been propaganda and data harvesting all the way down from day one.

            Like, the internet was not made by accident, or for no reason. It was developed at public universities with military funding.

          • Rabbithole@kbin.social
            2·
            1 year ago

            where Spez edited comments to make the sub seem to be inciting violence, so he had an excuse to ban it

            Not what happened. Spez, fuckwit though he is, actually managed to do a halfway decent trolling there.

            A bunch of t_d people were slagging him off and insulting him in their comments. Spez got drunk as shit one night and edited their comments, swapping his name with Trump’s so that it made them look like a bunch of anti-trumpers. Much gnashing of teeth ensued.

            Absolutely shouldn’t have done it, especially as CEO of Reddit FFS, but definitely funny as shit.

            Don’t get me wrong, it’s absolutely a mark against him, but he didn’t get them banned. They thouroughly got themselves banned on their own.

          • JasSmith@kbin.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            It’s all rather opaque, isn’t it? I suspect you’re correct, but if Reddit is actually paying for and controlling the moderation of /r/Politics, that raises a number of serious questions; both ethical and legal.

    • chickeni3oo@kbin.social
      2·
      1 year ago

      I replaced every comment I had with a rant about how Reddit has become corporate shills and none of their actions are about profitability and all about easing corporations with the ability to targeted advertise to users while being openly hostile to all their volunteer labor and users.

      12 years and 75k of comment karma worth.

  • nevernevermore@kbin.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    How are y’all spreading yourself out in the fediverse so far? Right now I’m just browsing the front page of kbin and occasionally check in on my feed in mastodon, but I’m yet to find my “niche” communities.

      • namastex@kbin.social
        4·
        1 year ago

        Well this ernest dude seems like he’s reacting quickly to criticisms. The NSFW posts were showing full pictures and there was a complaint to have the preview blurred out. Took less than 12 hours for him to implement that so that’s a plus

      • Parallax@kbin.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        I like kbin a lot already too. I like the highly functional feel. It’s close enough to Reddit that I hope it draws in more users. I found it a lot more approachable than Mastodon, and “Lemmy” just doesn’t have a nice ring to it IMO.

        • reflex@kbin.social
          0·
          1 year ago

          and “Lemmy”

          Also, communists or whatever. Not that I care if people have a particular ideology. But, I just want to shoot the shit about shit. Not get dragged into propagating someone’s manifesto or political treatise.

          • iByteABit@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            I think this point has been overexaggerated a bit. Sure, the main devs might support the CCP and actively try to silence critisicm about it, but the software is open source and decentralised for exactly this purpose. Anyone can fork it and host it themselves, and users can use any other instance which allows free speech with practically no difference in user experience.

            I think both Kbin and Lemmy are great software, I am using both hoping that at least one of the two ends up becoming popular

    • thanksbrother@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      Making accounts all over the place and talking to myself, shouting into the void like I did in social media from like 1996-2010

    • Xperr7@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      I’ve made accounts on lemmy.ml, lemmy.ca, requested beehaw.org, and here, but probably going to stick with here for UI reasons plus I like the microblogs for things that don’t exactly warrant a post. The Mastodon integration is neat, but I doubt I’ll really use it since I never used Mastodon before.

      Probably going to stick around here and Tildes (though that’s not the fediverse). Subscribed to a bunch of communities in the various lemmy instances before federation was took down for a bit, so hopefully one niche community grows there. Made one of my own for a relatively niche game I play (it’s a decently popular game, but it’s definitely niche).

      • trent@kbin.social
        0·
        1 year ago

        I like the microblogs for things that don’t exactly warrant a post. The Mastodon integration is neat, but I doubt I’ll really use it since I never used Mastodon before.

        Pretty sure you just described the Mastodon integration! 😅

        • Xperr7@kbin.social
          0·
          1 year ago

          Oh damn, really? That’s funny. I thought the microblogs and Mastodon integration just shared the same area, but goes to show how much I know lmao.

    • killick@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      Jeez, I’m on kbin.social, ramblinreaders (bookwyrm), pixelfed.social, and dmv.community (mastodon). So far I have persuaded 0.0 of my Instagram and Facebook friends to move to ActivityPub instances. :-( Might just be me. I’ve stopped posting on the facebook except for a quarterly post about Mastodon and I deleted my Twitter. I don’t know how fast Insta will reach terminal enshittification, but it seems to be holding on.

    • VulcanSphere@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      Already been here in Fediverse for a while (with Mastodon), but kbin is Vulcan’s first link aggregation platform in the fediverse.

      Bumpy start was to be expected but so far a very enjoyable experience, also contributed content to magazines.

    • rgb_leds_are_love@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      There’s a general lack of content here - and Ernest has been doing an extremely courageous job of keeping the lights on.

      I guess it’s up to us now to start creating content, and improving this site.

    • DodgeForthrast@kbin.social
      0·
      1 year ago

      I think it’ll take a little while but we’ll find our niches. I’m finding a few magazines on kbin.social to be really active in and I also got on mastodon.social. I don’t think the latter is for me. I need to figure out a little better how federation works then I’m gonna explore more.

      • 1019throw@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        I’m struggling to find content. I saw some news about a sports team I follow, Xbox game, or show I’m watching- I would typically go to reddit, easily find a sub, and all of the content and comments I want. Now when I look on kbin or lemmy or beehaw ( I don’t even know the difference), I could be in an instance? where there is isn’t Xbox content but maybe another instance has tons of content. It’s a bit confusing.

        • czech@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          Like another user mentioned- content across the fediverse isn’t federating with kbin.social except in a very limited capacity. This is temporary.

          https://fedia.io/ is another instance of kbin which has a much smaller local population but is federating much more than kbin.social at the moment. You can see posts from lemmy on the front page.

          • fedosyndicate@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, when you joined a reddit community after the 2010s, most of the popular ones would have some posts as a backlog to jump into. Only very rarely would you get a niche sub that hadn’t had anything posted that week. Kbin’s really just getting started and it’ll take a little while for things to fill out, but I have a lot of hope! The cat and dog photos are starting to roll in already, amyfou is posting regularly to /m/dogs! /m/food has photos and a discussion about cake!

    • ChimpanzeeThat@kbin.social
      0·
      1 year ago

      One of my biggest challenges is getting the ‘front page’ to fill up with the kind of thing I’d get on r/all. I think at the moment it only shows posts from the subs I subscribe to. But I can easily see how Kbin could replace Reddit (im not going back).

      • PoopingCough@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        The reason it seems like that is because this kbin instance (kbin.social) isn’t federated right now because of heavy traffic. So you’ll only see magazines that were created here. As soon as the restrictions are relaxed you’ll see other instances in the default feed. Or you could sign up for a different kbin instance like fedia.io which are currently still federated.

        Even so, the other instances that are working as intended don’t quite have that r/all feel yet just because there aren’t nearly the same number of users in all of the fediverse as there were on reddit. It’ll take time for the content to catch up.

  • roving6478@kbin.social
    1·
    1 year ago

    How long before there are calls for spez to resign? There’s no way other people at Reddit are happy with how he’s handled this. The product has been gutted, it’s probably worth a fraction of what it could have been. What next?