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Hell no. Oculus seemed like a really cool product when I was 17 and in love with “Ready Player One”, but now that we’ve seen the way that Big Tech just treats its users as profit-cattle fed on a diet of ads and angry people, I have no fucking desire to strap one of those things to my head (outside of actually gaming…then it’s kinda cool).
Nop, but a pair of glasses would be fine.
I’m near sighted and wearing glasses all the time. If AR glases are light, good looking and about as powerful as the Apple XR googles, sure i’ll wear them if i can afford to buy them.
Agreed - I never got a chance to try Google Glass but they at least looked lightweight. If there were an AR device like that then I wouldn’t have nearly as much of a problem.
They’re far from perfect, but I have the Nreal Air glasses and find them pretty dope. They have sony oled tech so they’re surprisingly bright even in a lit room, and the pixel density is great. No screen door effect like VR headsets.
They’re the 1st iteration, not very user-friendly for non-techies and absolutely need a lot of work, but the concept is very much there. I mostly use them to play Steam deck games on a “big screen” now, but the accompanying Android app attempts a phone + app-like design like the Vision.
Looks interesting! Though unfortunately I don’t have any devices that are compatible with it (Pixel phone is out, Intel Mac is a no, and no general desktop/windows/Linux support), but I’ll certainly keep my eye out to see if they expand, or if similar products launch!
Looks cool, yeah, we’ll see how it develops
The thing is. If you’re in a tropical country.
Yes that’s it. The sweat, the rashes. The smelly goggles from the dried sweat.
strapping goggles to my head to send an email sounds like what my personal hell is going to be like
imo VR is fun for games but beyond that it’s too dystopic for my taste lol
Fully agree. I think there are some practical, workforce related, use cases for AR/VR, but the idea of strapping into one for 8+ hours a day… No thanks.
No. Especially if it is 100% proprietary.
I don’t even want to read regular ear-covering headphones all the time.
I can’t even stand wearing my glasses all day, and those are a thousand times lighter and more useful than this.
No, but I like the idea of immersive VR & ai for learning
I feel like people are super fixated on how dumb it looks and less on it’s uncomfortable and often kinda gross to have something pressed against your skin for extended periods of time.
I know that Apple sets trends and whatever (like airpods) but i’m not sure they can pull off the “Apple VR-specific breakout pattern face.” I do enjoy the idea of the super rich peeps buying this to sit in their beige houses, headset clogging their pores.
I feel like this is solving an issue with a problem that Apple made up themselves. Normal virtual reality is too isolating, the way augmented reality has worked so far is insufficient, this is a good in-between.
…But I feel like it’s just a way for people to get trapped within their work even further. Want to get up and walk around for a few minutes? Well, you’re still getting Teams messages or whatever, because you’ve got these goggles stuck to your face. I don’t see how that’s a positive.Take your work with you! Take your work home! Work while you “play” with your kids! now that’s being productive! Your targets will be adjusted accordingly
I completely agree with this article. If watching movies in VR was going to be a popular thing, then it would have happened already. It’s been possible for a long time. The reason people don’t do it is because it’s far more convenient to just use a TV. It’s not a matter of visual fidelity, it’s a matter of comfort. (Also it’s a matter of people’s preference to be present in the real world, not isolated in a virtual world.)
It’s a cool gadget which I’d love to try but no way would buy. It just doesn’t do anything practical that I can’t already do quicker, easier and more effectively with more traditional devices. it’s far too expensive to justify as a fun gadget.
The article is right, very few people would want to sit with this on their head in the company of other people. It’s a generally a solo experience.
I could see it being extremely useful for those with disabilities though and I suppose if anyone can bring mixed reality devices more to the main stream it’s going to be apple
I mean, no.
I think at most it’s somewhat comparable to sitting down at an old fashioned desktop computer. It’s your primary focus of attention. When you’re not using it, you take it off.
The example of a dad doing a real-time recording of himself playing with his kids is cringy AF.
I’m pretty sure that was keynote-friendly code for “look how detailed the VR porn is going to be.”
Honestly though, if there is one thing Apple is really good at, it’s normalizing things that many might perceive as weird at first. I remember owning a first-gen Pebble, and I had numerous people jest about dorky it was with gems like, “You totally owned a calculator watch didn’t you?” Fast forward a few years, and Apple Watches are everywhere. Wearing a Vision headset at a kids birthday party will probably be on the same level as busting out an iPad to capture a video.
Maybe if they’re normal, they’ll still be contextual. Earbuds are totally normal, but unless they’re hearing aids, it would not be socially acceptable to just have your earbuds in all the time at your kid’s birthday party.
These I think are like earbuds for your eyes. Yes, they can have a mode where you interact with the outside world without removing them, but that’s only for intermittent use. If you and I have a conversation, you’ll likely remove your earbuds.
I may be in the minority here, but I do, and frequently have. There is a sizeable community like that, but we don’t seem to really fall into Apple’s target market, and it will be interesting to see how orthogonal that willingness is to being a techie shut-in.
For me, the big reason I don’t wear it 8-10 hours per day when I’m working like I do when I’m playing is the pixel density. Current VR headsets (except maybe Varjo’s) don’t do a good job of simulating even one 4k screen, let alone competing with a multi-monitor setup, so they fall short for productivity. Once that’s solved (and that’s the claim Apple seems to be making here), the case for use as a primary work machine is very compelling. It lets you set up something like this for the cost of a headset and a reclining office chair, and is also somehow portable.
It fails if you use it exactly like you use a laptop, just like a phone does. If you take advantage of the increased flexibility though, it has pretty transformative potential.
That said, that’s the perspective of a technologist with no kids who works from home. I wouldn’t buy this because its standout features are irrelevant to me, so I’m from a representative sample of the market they’re chasing.
I’m inclined to agree with you that it might be a potentially good way to interact with a computer. There’s a company called Sightful that makes a “Spacetop” computer, which is basically a laptop with a headset instead of a screen. Mike Elgan actually gave it some pretty positive press lately.
As someone who travels constantly and misses a big monitor on the road, I am inclined to agree that the use case could be compelling.
But… $3,500 is a lot of lettuce for something that could easily be obsolete as fast as my cell phone. And Apple mentioned that the total field of vision is something over 4k, but that’s still a lot less than multiple 4k monitors.
Still, I’m willing to be convinced. Especially if a stripped down “viewer only” model comes out without all the bells and whistles. I don’t need outward display, or the lidar, or any of that. I just want a big workspace.
