My wife went to school for English lit and is a professional writer. I cannot get a plot twist past her notice. It sucks so much. There was a video game that featured a serial killer (no spoilers, so no title) and I NEVER would have guessed who it was. I played it and I was shocked at the twist. Then I had my wife play it and in the first five minutes of the game she was like “That man is evil and I don’t trust him” and I was like WTF!!! He’s like nice and friendly and stuff. How the fuck does she do it. I spent hours having to gaslight her about how correct her prediction was. She also always knows when someone is going to die. I have to tell her not to comment predictions about movies because she’s correct at least 70% of the time.
I find foreshadowing and death flags are obvious the second time around and wonder how I missed them. I could see someone getting really good at noticing them, but I feel like that would ruin every show for me
My brain likes meta-analyzing everything and something like a shooter game basically looks often like Shooting Gallery A -> Guiding Light -> Safety Hall -> Shooting Gallery B -> Drop Gate and so on. Same with shows or movies, red flag drops and foreshadowing are so visible to me that I don’t really watch anything unless it’s something absurd, or very unique. All films feel the same, because you see the same structure, bare character archetypes, the same Disney-style writing, etc.
I like older games for that reason, because back then you didn’t have things like online gamedev conferences where they teach you how to use a ruler, and often level designers were just random junior programmers or ex-modders that thought “this would be so sick” and made really iconic designs that are often unpredictable
Edit: I now realise that people like things like Cruelty Squad and Death Stranding for this exact reason too
Something something thematic conventions
This is why I don’t like watching anything with my friends. My husband and I like to pause the movie/show every so often and theorise. When we talk it through we can usually figure it out, and that’s obviously not fun for anyone else.
Talking a bit… OK… pausing it to talk not OK
I think I know the game and my wife did the literal exact same thing. Couldn’t even gaslight it, but to be fair there were at least other twists.
Hahahaha I do the same, what type of autism does she have? I got my spergs to guide me to ilumination.
(even tho when it really counts irl it doesn’t seem to work)
I do this to myself and then get disappointed 20min later.
“Nah, surely they wouldn’t make it that obvious, that would be downright bad writing… More clues, they must be trying to lead me astray and then surprise me with a better twist! Oh, it really was just the obvious one… Hmm.”
It’s just better to not talk about the movie while watching the movie. No need to build expectations or even lead the story.
Let the story tellers tell the story.
Oh here is my strategy:
Friend: “I really like X, I hope they don’t die”
Me: “Oh they go hard in the final episode its great!”
Friend: “WOOOOOOOOW SPOILERS!!!”
Me: “I’M SO SORRY”
The character dies in episode 4
Friend: “YOU FUCKING LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!”
A movie that can be “spoiled”, is not a very good movie. It means it is a one trick pony and would not withstand repeated viewings. Good storytelling means you don’t get bored rewatching it.
Every Marvel movie: :/
I’ve done this more then I’d like to admit
Let’s be honest, why should plot twist be even unexpected anyway?
is there a community for not having friends growing up / ever and literally not having experiences about this
i dont know of any specifically, bc i never looked it up, but i do have a ‘meme’ mag that has a focus on weird girls/female-hermit experiences. often i post about isolation and other mental health topics. everything there can apply to men and others too, but its a femininity-focused mag fyi. @weirdgirlmemes. idk if this is at all a good answer but throwing it out there
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Gaslighting is when you convince someone their lives experiences aren’t real, not when you don’t confirm or deny someone’s guess.
i think nearly everyone is aware that the word gaslighting has been used improperly online ever since it became popular.
anyway this meme implies that you slyly try to convince them that their guess is wrong and plant doubt in their mind so that the movie’s twist will still hold up. i still agree gaslighting isn’t the proper word to use.
You know what? You’re totally right. It was closer to the definition than I had figured.
I hate it when that happens.
I just say before it starts “I won’t say anything about the movie, even if you comment on it.”
