Here’s a 100 year old past sauce recipe that a good friend of mine shared on Reddit long ago. I’m happy to port it over to Lemmy for all of you even though it’s kind of off-topic in this thread: here goes
Tomato Sauce - Adam P.
100 Year Old Fabrizio Family recipe. Current iteration by my friend.
Okay. Go get:
4 - 28oz cans crushed tomatoes
1 - 6oz can tomato paste
1 small/medium brown onion
1 head garlic
olive oil
red wine
salt & pepper
crushed red pepper
dry herbs (thyme, basil, parsley)
dry bay leaves
Okay? So…
Get your biggest pot. Pour in enough olive oil to fully cover the bottom, maybe 1/8" to 1/4" deep. Not too much or it will pool in the sauce later. Put the heat on medium-low. Do not burn the olive oil. If it smokes, turn it down.
Chop the onion and add to the pot. Stir and then let them sweat until they are properly translucent. While that is happening, chop two or three garlic cloves. Throw out the green shoot in the middle. This is a non-digestible “germ” (as in “wheat germ”) and only causes heartburn and bad breath. Pitch it. Now put the chopped garlic in the pot and reduce the heat to low. Do not burn the garlic. If it browns (more than a little bit), start over. Sweat the garlic just like the onions.
Now it’s tomato time. First, mix the tomato paste into the onion/garlic/oil mixture. This makes it easier to soften up and mix into the full sauce. Now, pour all four cans of crushed tomatoes into the pot and stir until everything is fully mixed together. Look for clumps of tomato paste and try and work them into the sauce. Add one healthy glass of red wine (Chianti, Zinfandel, Cabernet, etc.), then drink the rest yourself!
We’re getting there!
Salt: about a whole tablespoon. Be brave. Mix it in.
Now, the herbs. Dealer’s choice here. I usually do two or three pinches of each…so roughly a teaspoon. Notice oregano is not in this recipe. You will not miss it, I assure you. Go ahead and add one or two pinches of crushed red pepper, but you can always add more to the food. Don’t get crazy. It does affect flavor as well as heat, so…
Black pepper: I only use pepper mills, so crank away at that until satisfied. I go heavy, but I love the stuff. Use your discretion.
Now add two or three whole bay leaves. You will be fishing these out later. They are not Good Eats.
Bring the heat back up to medium-low and simmer that pot for two hours. I don’t want to see a full boil. Stir regularly, especially the bottom. We don’t want anything burning or sticking to the bottom. If you need to turn it down, please do so. You can simmer this all damn day if you are so inclined, but two hours is really enough. Dig out the bay leaves before serving. You can jar this hot and freeze it, and it lasts practically forever in the freezer and fridge.
You are now the proud owner of a 100 year-old recipe from Penne, Abruzzo, Italy handed down through generations of Italian-Americans. I want my last meal on earth to be swimming in this sauce. (Wanna know how to make a mean lasagna ricotta filling? For starters, never ever use meat in lasagna.)
Damn, that’s pretty intense, but the results must be truly amazing. Julia Childs over here
He’s a really standup guy. Happy to share! :)
Yes
Rao’s
Damn. You’re fancy. That was like over seven dollars a jar at Aldi. Been curious though.
It’s very good. Kenji Lopez-Alt swears by it, and if it’s good enough for him, it’s good enough for me lol. I get it at Costco, and I don’t think it was that expensive.
IDK who that guy is, but if you trust him, I trust him.
Try arrabiata(sp?) version if they have it.
I have never tried it. I’ll look this weekend.
It’s basically ghe only brand not full of added sugar.
Ya. I hate that shit. I prefer my foods to be more acidic, and everything has so much damn sugar which cuts the acidity to me. Why is red pasta sauce sweet? idk I hate it though.
I got two big jars for 9.98 at Sam’s today. They’re each almost twice the size of what Walmart carries, which is almost $5 a jar. 44 oz for $10 vs 13 oz for $5
It makes an excellent pizza sauce for home made pizzas too.
Damn, that’s some good value. At that value might be willing to spice it up on my own with all these other suggestions in the comments.
Rao’s is basically more sauce per jar than other brands because it’s not watered down to slime. I can sauce easily twice as many servings of pasta from a jar of Rao’s than Classico or Prego.
They did just get bought out so this is probably only true for another year or so.
Ya, I hate sauces that are watery and full of sugar. Give me the thicccc red sauce with a little bit of acid. Been wanting to try Rao, but it was expensive the last time I saw. Maybe I will get some this weekend before they fully transition to watery slop for that important bottom line.
Straight-up out of the jar onto your pasta, I think Raos is probably the best widely available option.
That said, I have yet to meet a jarred pasta sauce that didn’t benefit from a bit of tweaking, some extra herbs/spices, a splash of wine, some cheese, sauteing up some extras garlic & onions, etc.
In general, I don’t tend to think of jarred sauce as a totally finished product, it’s more of a shortcut that lets you skip most of the more labor intensive parts of making a sauce from scratch and skip to the finishing touches. Even the most lackluster bargain brand sauce can usually be dressed up to a pretty damn good sauce without too much effort.
My usual process is to finely chop up some onions and garlic, give that a good saute with some olive oil, maybe deglaze with some wine, add the sauce, then season to taste with some herbs & spices (normally oregano, basil, rosemary, black pepper, red pepper flakes will be a pretty safe bet, but I get a bit weird with it sometimes, taste as you go) finish it off with some Parmesan cheese, and of course a bit of the pasta water.
I usually do a meat sauce with a similar idea, I also finish my sauce before I start heating water for pasta. The new ingredients really benefit from time simmering with the sauce in my opinion.
Was coming here to post this. Rao’s Marinara Sauce is the best out of a jar.
Seriously, get some Italian bread, pour a little bit of Rao’s into a bowl, dip a piece of the bread in there, enjoy.
Ya, I agree, they all need a bit of personalized flavor profiles. I used to take out the jars, heat 'em up in a pot, spice them up, but it gets to laborious and the sauce pops all over the stovetop and now I have to do dishes.
Recently I’ve just been doing cento crushed tomatoes (canned). You need to season it (at least salt and pepper dear God) and ideally add some onion and garlic, maybe mushrooms or meat. But I’m also the type to add additional seasoning and ingredients to “finished” store bought sauces anyway, so maybe you’re looking for something more complete
That sounds an awful lot like cooking to me
As opposed to serving cold pasta sauce on dry pasta or fresh pasta straight from the fridge?
Okay, forget the meat and mushrooms, I tried to imply that those were optional. Let’s say you use that jarred minced garlic (I don’t like the stuff personally, but it’s easy). You’re going to be letting the sauce simmer anyway I hope, so while you wait you season to taste. Yes that’s one or two minutes that you could’ve scrolled on Lemmy while you wait for your sauce to heat up, though I guess if you don’t like cooking you might be content mixing a ladle of cold sauce with the still warm noodles.
Throw a container of fresh deli salsa in it. Garlic, onion, tomato chunks, herbs, you’d be shocked how well it turns out.
Ya I think “more complete” would be accurate, but also low/no sugar content. I always open up good looking jars, and then upon tasting them, they are super sweet. Gimme that acid!
Same dude, stick electrodes in me and I could power a lightbulb
The acidity brotherhood is strong.
Newman’s
Jerry!
Love the Newman’s. Not quite as good as my grandmother’s but pretty good. I’ll usually tweak it a little bit to make it even better, but when when I can’t it’s good.
I’m gonna assume you mean best cheap jarred sauce.
I think Newman’s Own and Classico are the best under $3 at King Soopers.
One jar of classico tomato basil sauce One yellow onion chopped One can of diced tomatoes A few cloves of garlic chopped lots more basil butter trace amounts: cayenne, cumin
Meanwhile you’re browning some 80/20 ground beef in another skillet, and mix all that in including the fat at the end
Agreed. Classico’s doctored is pretty good and cheap.
Hell ya bby, imma cheap-ass too. But also inflation or whatever…
But I didn’t want to put that cost restriction on it since I might be willing to fork out a bit more money if it’s actually really good.
I do like me some classico sauce.
Kirkland brand from Costco is actually pretty good.
If not that, Rao’s though I prefer Kirkland.
It’s fairly plain on its own, so especially great if you are going to throw in anything extra, like fresh herbs or mushrooms or stuff.
Edit: Also, pro tip - the key to great sauce is saving a cup of the pasta water and throwing back in as you mix with the sauce.
I keep hearing Rao is good. Might need to try that one. Never tried Costco’s. They typically have decent products, so maybe I will try some. Do you know if the Costco one has added sugar? I hate sweet red sauce.
No. Here’s the only ingredients:
INGREDIENTS: organic tomatoes, organic onions, organic carrots, organic tuscan pgi extra virgin olive oil, organic basil, sea salt.
Barilla FTW. But it actually depends on the country you buy it. I notice it tastes significantly better in Europe than Latinamerica for some reason…
Unfortunately, I am not in Europe. Please send me some! My American taste buds need some good read sauce.
Probably has to do with more (?) control over what goes into foods that Europeans eat.
Ages ago, I read about a recipe by the ‘grandmother of Italian cooking’ for an incredibly simple pasta sauce. I can attest it makes a very tasty sauce and it’s so easy, even a cooking dunce like me can’t fuck it up (yet). And if you want to add extra spices or herbs as an experiment, that only increases the flavour.
Her main premise was… why waste time chopping an onion into little bits? As our old pal Kevin would say, everyone is going to get to know each other in the pot! You take an onion, peel it, chop it in half, chuck it in a pan with one or two cheap tins of tomato. Add a healthy chunk of (salted) butter. Stir occasionally, she recommends 30 mins but ain’t nobody got time fo’ that. I usually do 15 or 20. Add salt to taste, remove the onion (as an aside, the onion will now be sweet and edible on its own), et voila.
The secret ingredient of a shit ton of butter haha. That’s giving me some inspiration and motivation. Does it matter the tins of tomato? Crushed, peeled, ect.?
AFAIK it doesn’t matter which tinned toms you use. I prefer peeled to chopped as it feels like there’s more water in the chopped ones, but could just be deceiving myself!
Miss me with that excess water. I would have to reduce the sauce since I like it thiccc.
Anything that stands between me and tasty sauce can get in the sea. If I want water I’ll pour a glass haha.
You can always improve the flavor in your sauce. I’m not familiar with Aldi brand, but keep a few things on hand to give it the flavor you like.
Some of my favorite not-so-secret ingredients:
A splash of red wine or a tablespoon of grape jam for sweetness
Onion powder and garlic powder. Yes, fresh is better, but if you’re starting with a jar of inexpensive sauce, get over yourself.
Soy sauce to make it saltier
Fish sauce or msg for more umami
Bay leaf, basil, oregano, or whatever preferred herbs you have on hand
If it’s too acidic, add a teaspoon of baking soda.
Sometime I want to make the sauce a bit thinner, depending on the dish. I take a tablespoon of tomato paste and mix it into a cup of beef stock or water.
If I go all out, I’ll typically season it in a space pan and heat it up to reduce it a bit since like the thicc sauces.
Unfortunately I’m a lazy ass when it comes to cooking. Just wanna pop that top and pour it over the Pasa and heat it in a microwave.
Bertolli
I just make my own and freeze it.
Olive oil, carrot, onion, garlic, ground beef, pork sausage, nduja, canned peeled tomatoes, and red wine, plus herbs to match your preferred flavor profile (I prefer thyme, but rosemary, oregano, basil, even sage work too). Salt to taste.
I put in medium sized mason jars and throw them in the freezer, them pull out a jar and put it in the fridge a day before I know I’m going to use it.
You can also put the sauce in a plastic bag and freeze laying flat on a plate. If it’s got all that surface area exposed it’ll thaw enough to use in just a few minutes instead of overnight.
Hmm this honestly is probably the best in terms of taste and cost, but I am a lazy-ass and hate cooking, and I hate doing dishes more.
Sounds delicious though. Maybe if a get a spurt of energy I will give this a try!
It’s expensive and probably not available in a majority of the country, but Michael’s of Brooklyn is a straight banger. I found it while I was living in Brooklyn and when I moved away I was sad I wouldn’t be able to buy it anymore, but a few months back my local store started stocking it lol.
Damn, sounds good! Can you send me some.
Awwww ya 🍅
In the realm of jarred tomato sauce available at your local mega Mart:
If you like actual chunks of veggie in your sauce,Bertolli rustic cut is outstanding but getting hard to find.
If you’re looking for something for a baked bread dish like pizza or as a marinara dip, Victoria White linen is really good.
Rao’s Ariabiata has a nice little kick that won’t kill your guests
That last one sounds perfect. I love me some kick, give it to me so that it burns going in and burns coming out.
Classico is great if you’re on a budget and it has plenty of variety. If you’re not going to make it but want it to be as good as possible I recommend Rao’s, it’s expensive but really good, the Alfredo sauce is great too
Classico was my go to for sure. It was nice and tangy.
