• donio@beehaw.org
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    2 years ago

    When you have a goose that produces a reliable daily supply of golden eggs do you:

    1. keep collecting your daily egg
      or
    2. see if giving it a good kick or two gets you more eggs
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      As YouTube increases the number and length of ads, the amount of traffic behind blockers rises accordingly.

      This is also just… a function of the evolving digital space. The consolidation of the internet ownership sphere and the modernized APIs/coding tools afford server-side content warehouses more and more power over what the end user receives.

      Because AWS owns all the fucking rack space, because ISP monopolies are the defining feature of western net access, and Microsoft force-feeds people their proprietary interfaces, we’re moving away from the point where clients control what they display and closer to the point where everything’s just a dumb-terminal for big business.

      We’re effectively backpeddling from Web 2.0 to Terrestrial TV.

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      Youtube most likely never made any money. Hosting these vast amounts of video is expensive. Google stopped telling us how much they money youtube made them lose. You would think they would start bragging when they could make a profit off of it.

      That being said, this still sucks of course.

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        Although they don’t profit directly from youtube, it’s a strategy they take to impede competition from arising and keeping their name as the main one. It’s the kind of strategy only multibillionaire companies can do, and, in my opinion, something that should be restricted, because it affects smaller businesses to the point of becoming inviable.

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          More notably, its a strategy they can do when borrowing costs are functionally zero.

          A lot of this shit is just the consequence of Fed Rate Policy. No more cheap money means these loss leaders are actually being expected to generate profit, not to just act as clearing houses for propaganda.

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    YouTube is the only Google service I use on a regular basis. Happy to leave them behind if they continue with this type of behavior.

    It would be less convenient, but it is what it is and if there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s ads.

  • dan@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Then I’m going to begin not fucking watching YouTube.

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      There is a federated version of YouTube…

      But storing video is a massive challenge, way harder than dealing with a Lemmy or Mastodon instance.

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        My rational mind realises it’s such an expensive system to run that it’s reasonable for them to charge or show ads. The problem is they’ve been extremely aggressive with ads and pushing subscriptions, to the point where I’m pretty resentful of the idea. Plus they’ve neglected so many things (like allowing aggressive copyright predators and refusing to implement sensible human-based appeals processes) that they really should have dealt with and instead embraced an algorithm that I’m pretty sure is at least partially responsible for the radicalisation of large groups of people.

        I… don’t mind paying for shit. I just don’t want to give them money.

        Also: wow there’s federated video sharing? Bet that’s not cheap to run.

  • Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    We did the Twitter to Mastodon migration. Now we are doing the Reddit to Lemmy/kbin migration. When are we doing the YouTube to Peertube migration?

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    They have really gone all out on the whole enshittification process during the past couple of years, haven’t they?

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      Just wait until they figure out how much more $$$$ they can make by putting all content behind microtransactions:

      Imagine a world where, instead of grappling with complex tokens and crypto jargon, you have a digital wallet connected to your Web browser. This wallet would automatically handle microtransactions as you browse and consume content, creating a seamless and simplified experience, reminiscent of exchanging tokens at a funfair or arcade

      This transition to the Great Paywall isn’t just about the monetization of content; it’s about balancing the scales and recognizing the value of content creators in the digital ecosystem. In the next chapter of the Web, users aren’t just passive consumers but active participants whose attention carries tangible value.

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        Let’s not forget that, if we do go down the microtransaction hell of an internet path, we’d be screwing things up big-time for the coming generations…

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    oh boy, I wish youtube kills itself like reddit is doing right now so decentralized alternatives can become widely adopted

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    When will companies finally understand that some people won‘t watch ads no matter what tricks they employ. I‘d rather watch no video at all than a single ad. If that is their goal, fine.

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      And the percentage of people using ad blocking has to be crazy low. I’ve never seen another person in public with ad blocking. Every time I happen to see someone watching youtube, there’s ads playing.

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    As fill-in ads are a vector for computer viruses and other malware I for one will NOT be disabling my ad blocker unless YouTube is willing to provide a lifetime subscription to something like Life Lock and make me whole for anything lost to whatever malware arrives as a part of an ad.

    Where else can I watch sci-show, Linus-tech-tips, and all the other channels I subscribe to?

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      Just use newpipe. It’s youtube without the ads. Doesn’t have casting support, but it allows you to download the videos. You can also listen/download to the audio of videos, without fetching the video.

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        Newpipe will probably be blocked as well if youtube is doing this. Honestly not sure why youtube hasn’t blocked yt-dlp and others already.

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          I’m not a 100% sure but I think newpipe uses a scraping method instead, so its harder to block since it pretends its a regular user

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    I feel like extensions are pretty savvy for fixing this. If not, I will waste less time on YouTube. Hell, why not another big site getting over my limit for hoops that are worth jumping through vs value I get.

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      Yup, a lot of my time got wasted on YouTube… I watched “educational” and “interesting” videos but I have to say that many of the creators got caught into enshittification process too… I would do well with 95% reduction in watch time. However, if they start a real war against adblockers… 100% reduction will it be.

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        The 10min minimum is why I pretty much stopped posting. If you don’t provide enough viewing time for 2 pre-rolls and one intermission your revenue per 1k views drops off and you don’t get promoted to new viewers.