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2M accounts, not users. Most of those are bot accounts that started appearing recently. See the saga of lemmy.ninja for example.
The Federation currently shows Lemmy at 1.6M accounts and falling as admins on other instances continue to mop up bot accounts.
For the curious but lazy: Lemmy is currently at 55k monthly active users and kbin is also around 55k MAU. The bot accounts are just noise but we are seeing consistent, steady growth so far.
Lemmy + kbin had around 2k more active users each day over the past 10 days. Today, after the 3rd party app exitus, it were 10k more. It’s fantastic!
Something is off with kbin’s active user reporting. Look at the numbers: their total user and active user numbers are exactly the same. There is no way that every single one of the users are active.
I alone have an account on four different instances
Is there any way to transfer subscription between accounts?
Holy fuck!
Inflated. There are lots of instances with 20-80k bots.
Edit: https://the-federation.info/platform/73 . order by total users and then see the total active users. Totally different.
It’s a bummer how they removed captchas in the latest Lemmy update. We really need them now
As I said in another comment. The captcha system was dependent on websockets, and exactly what the Devs have said, the captcha system was easy to break. I’m sure my old OCR python 2 code could have broken it.
So when we ditched the inefficient websocket system the captcha system stopped working
Tbh I’m not sure now much captias actually help, they are trivial to bypass, you can literally do it with a browser extention
So sad I thought I’m this was for real :(
It’s still a stupid amount of active users in 1-2 weeks on a platform that had 2k active users for quite a long time
Sorry to burst your bubble!
What is the theory around the prevalence of bots? Is it people trying to snatch up desirable names or what?
Who knows. They are not even good names, the usernames are usually part of the email. It’s usually super easy to figure out. Captcha’s were dependent on web sockets, so once the Devs got rid of those the captchas broke anyway.
Tinfoil hat mode With enough accounts you could influence the algorithm by voting up content you want vs content you don’t want. Or basically DDoS servers. As every like on a post for a community is sent to every other instance that federates with that community.
Or it could be people creating accounts to inflate the numbers of the fediverse to write this content and make silly headlines like these.
I think most of the bots at the moment don’t have any real purpose other than showing that it is possible to create so many bots. Gathering from posts on the subject and the modlog, many bots have far from a natural name in the form of [random word][long number]. I suspect many of these hots have been created by the same person and/or script.
It will be a matter of time though before real problems start occuring if the sign up process does not become more secure. Fortunately, several pull requests exist for this at the Lemmy GitHub.
Influencing the public, I would guess.
ONE OF US ONE OF US
In before someone says “but how many are bots?”… but seriously how many are bots?
It’s hard to tell exactly, but probably the vast majority of them.
The graphs at The Federation are wild. Total Users spiked to nearly 2M a few days ago then collapsed to about 1M today. The Active Users charts did the same thing. And both numbers are still falling sharply.
Edit: Something must be going on with that site. I checked a few hours later and the graphs are very different.
This is great news