The fundamental difference between Luigi and the average American is that Luigi truly felt he was entitled to health care. He was so affronted by the injustice that he went postal over it.
Most Americans are either too demoralized or too cynical to believe they can do more than yell at a call center worker when claims are denied.
So, totally unrelated, but like hypothetically, how illegal would it be to start printing guns and giving them to people with terminal illnesses who were denied coverage? No reason in particular
Well remember the Republicans think gun control is bad, so.
It’s almost like they’re begging for it.
You can’t manufacture a gun for somebody else unless you’re a registered gun manufacturer. You can only make one for yourself. You can hypothetically sell/give a printed gun to someone if when you made it you didn’t intend on selling or distributing it, however many states require you to transfer that firearm via a dealer.
You would have to give/loan your cancer patient a 3d printer and maybe suggest a URL. They would have to construct the firearm themselves without help.
you can’t murder people in the streets without having a badge.
yet …
Sure you can. Nobody is going to stop you. Law enforcement will show up after to push brooms around and take notes, but you will already have achieved your goal.
You worry about the legality of printing a gun when you want to give it to someone to use for murder?
There’s an old saying, “Never commit a misdemeanor in the middle of your felony.”
Commit one crime at a time. Trying to break this is what has gotten many big fish.
Remember, they picked up Capone on tax evasion.
Indeed, don’t be the dumbass who gets caught trying to hide a body because you got pulled over for speeding.
Organized crime worries about legal issues all the time, and their whole purpose is crime.
Limiting liability, and plausible deniability, is a cornerstone of literally getting away with murder.
Eh. Aligning your organization with a patron politician or police organization is how you get away with murder.
The Italian and Jewish Mafias of the 1960s were paramilitary wings of the anti-Communist movement. Once Communism was officially squashed in the 90s, they got rolled up quick.
What about pieces of a gun?
What if five people printed five different parts and traded them?
What if the pieces have multiple purposes, only one of which is part of the assembly of a gun?
Illegal. But look into 80% lower receivers for more info.
Straw purchases are illegal. So only if they can prove it
That’s not how 3DP2A works. The “thing” that has to be registered is the polymer frame (on a semiautomatic handgun). That polymer frame is at least what gets printed. So if you’re printing a handgun, there’s no registerable purchase.
Trying to explain this to the SWAT team as they burst into my house and start firing on anything that moves.
Frankly, it would be an objectively good thing if there were a trend of Luigi-esque incidents, because the only thing entrenched power structures will respond to is violence, and Luigi’s methods did not leave much room for collateral damage.
We need some kind of large scale morally righteous social struggle. Perhaps, to use a turn of phrase, a jihad on health insurance.
Cool, go assassinate another CEO if you actually care.
Posting on the internet does nothing.
Posting on the internet is effectively just leafleting, but on a mass scale.
That’s not nothing, but it’s certainly not enough.
Yeah, there might be some copycats, but I’m dubious. This reignited the healthcare and wealth gap conversation, but that’s about it. Nothing meaningful will come from this in regards to our legislature taking action to help the lower and middle classes out.
This guy is likely to go to jail for a long time. Law enforcement spared no expense tracking him down, catching him within days even after making a relatively clean getaway after a fairly well executed plan. Not many people have nothing to lose and/or have no fear of those kinds of consequences.
In my opinion, until around 30% of our country is on the verge of starvation, unemployment, and/or homelessness, there won’t be a mass movement that chooses to take forceful action. And even if that occurs, you can guarantee all the fancy police state surveillance they’ve put in place over the last 20-some-odd years will get dialed up to 11.
Fairly well-executed plan? Dude was eating in public in the same jacket he wore that day.
Not to mention going without the mask at Starbucks and keeping the manifesto and weapon.
He wasn’t trying to seriously evade capture. But I think he was close to having a chance.
And yet the only reason he was caught as soon as he was, was because a McDonald’s employee wanted $50,000 (and didn’t even end up getting the money anyway).
I didn’t say it was a flawless plan or even great, just that he did evade authorities for days despite the insane amount of resources NYPD poured into finding him.
He was 100% getting caught regardless of who reported seeing him. The only chance he had was ditching everything and running forever.
If he made it overseas, it would have been much harder.
I think he would have been much better off going immediately to a lawyer, and go into hiding for a while. Her could have afforded to Doordash some Mickey D’s.
It’s very strange. He had a ghost gun and all those IDs, and then went to get a McChicken.
I think he got cold feet when he realized he might have to stay on the run for the rest of his life.
He just needed to make it to a country that doesn’t extradite. I find it surprising he had to know how to find this guy at the right place and time, successfully shoot him despite the gun not firing right, and get away from the crime in surveillance dystopia NYC. He succeeded in all of that and then got caught with all the evidence right on him in a McDs in bumblefuck PA? It makes no sense. Unless he wanted to get caught? Murder clouded his judgement after? He’s not the guy?
I’m gonna put on my tinfoil hat and say “he’s not the guy”. My guess is they found someone who LOOKS like him, and want to fasttrack the case to calm the investor class down. Look at the big “therapy” call Kathy Hochul just put together with a bunch of NY CEOs - they’re terrified. 9/11 proved to them they aren’t invulnerable to random acts of violence, and now this proves to them they’re not even UNTOUCHABLE by someone committed. They’re asking for state-level protections, National Guard-style stuff IIRC, round-the-clock guards at their houses and workplaces. This is conjuring up the early 1900s again, when ACTUAL anarchists and socialists simply shot the owner of the factory in the head at his home, or at his job, or tried to bomb them on their way to get lunch.
Yeah they realized they’re not invincible. I’m 50/50 about him being the guy. Part of the story checks out (his backstory) and part doesn’t (such a clean kill and getaway and then get caught in bumblefuck pa at a McDs?)
I think that a lot of Americans have nothing to lose
And that number will be increasing drastically after Trump’s fascism takes over.
Fear
We all live in fear … fear that if we speak up, we’ll lose our job … fear that once we’ve spoken up, we’ll never be listened to again … fear that if we lose our job, we’ll never be hired again … fear that without work and income, we won’t be able to survive … fear that we will be ostracized by everyone if they don’t/won’t/can’t agree with us …
… but most of all, fear that we will be destroyed by the judicial, police, security and legal system that is owned and controlled by those we try to rebel against
… and greatest of all, we will be killed for speaking out too loudly and prominently
Funny way to spell “cowardice”
I understand why the French were fed up and went agro on the wealthy in 1789. Most Americans view the wealthy as heroes and will continue to take it up the ass without lube.
The wealth distribution right now in the US is almost the same as it was in France at that time
The French were starving to death in the streets in 1789. In the US, the average poor person is exponentially more likely to suffer from obesity, than to die from lack of food.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for the American people revolt like that–things are simply not nearly as bad in the US now as they were in France then, and it’s ignorant to equivocate them like this.
If I may suggest. Work and live in a 1st World EU country and one will quickly realize how far behind the USA is and what should be fixed. Crime and violence will decrease too.
Can you burn a Luigi board?
Why does he always have a mouse cursor in his ear ? Is this a new US trend ?
Whoever took the original picture likely used a phone or camera to actually take a picture of a computer screen. I think I can see screen refresh artifacts in the image, too. It’s mostly an illiterate computer user trend, or maybe someone in a hurry to capture a picture of someone else’s screen.
It’s mostly an illiterate computer user trend, or maybe someone in a hurry to capture a picture of someone else’s screen
Its probably on a security/cop PC of some sort, much easier to snap a pic with your phone than to sneak a screenshot off of one of those
Yeah but like… move the cursor first.
It’s ok if you like wearing a mouse cursor in your ear, we won’t judge you.
Dude had the means, resources, and time to do that stuff. Really desperate people are too busy trying to survive and don’t have time for all this internet fetitization.
Mmm I wouldn’t count them out.
Revolutions start from the top down. Not the bottom up
He also had a sense of entitlement. Marginalized folks expect to be fucked over, so they’re less likely to flip out and kill somebody when it happens to them.
There’s millions of people with the traumatic experience of dealing with healthcare companies, millions of people with guns, and maybe thousands with the skills to get in range of potential targets. But the center of a Venn diagram of all three would make for the next potential shooter.
We’re sitting on a tinder box. The working class is fuming at the cost of living, and even the better off and low end of the capitalist class (unbelievably I know) are suffering under our health care system. This guy is a class traitor. He could of been a capitalist, he was born to a capitalist family that owned multiple successful businesses he theoretically could of taken over. But his pain likely radicalized him towards a different path…
Yea m8 I don’t know if the working class is feeling all that revolutionary considering whomst tf they elected last month
They elected him because of how angry they are.
They promised him the world, then he got out and found out.
Sophia Artang is fake.
Define “effective”.
What changed for the better as a result of his actions, for either him or anyone else?
The night is yet young.
we’ve seen how wildly effective it is
No, we haven’t.
Says the white chick who just tries to be an influencer and look good for a living?
The white chick isn’t the problem. Stay focused.
🤷 It pays the medical bills
You’d understand a lot more about the reasons that guys like him are fed up if you actually engaged with others outside your echo chambers instead of letting corporate media tell you they’re all white supremacist bigots, while numbing your minds with every sexual perversion under the sun.
It really shouldn’t be a shocker that the very same corporations who are trying to convince you that this guy is a villain and the CEO was a hero, have also been spinning similar stories to you about others in the past, yet you continue to eat that up.
Sounds like a slippery slope. That could lead to working with moderates and winning elections.
