Nitter mirror: https://xcancel.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1824582380411392493#m
The ad in question: https://youtu.be/dY8uRLSMjrg
Let’s keep that pressure up. Make sure we vote and get involved
I’m cautiously hopeful that this all signals a fundamental shift in politics. The Reagan (or perhaps even starting with Nixon) policies that blatantly began saying fuck you to the non-wealthy led inevitably to Trump, a grifting narcissist incapable of telling the truth. The grifts and lies were always part and parcel of the GOP, but eventually when you deny reality hard enough you’re going to end up with a “strong” man cult.
Democracy doesn’t always survive that (and it may not yet), but the cult puts on full display, with no room to hide (except to the cultists themselves), how absolutely insane the policies are. The point where the low-info voters and normal people couldn’t ignore things anymore was Roe going down, and the insanity following that out of SCOTUS like making the president a king doesn’t help their image.
Now add in the Harris campaign getting support from even nodding toward more left policies, and theoretically this signals that centrist positions are no longer what carries elections. I have no delusions that this will get us even in the realm of Bernie, but the GQP is the broken party at the moment. The cult will only accept the most extreme of christofascists, yet the “normal” repub voters have seen that those policies end up in the Handmaid’s Tale (or at least about half of them are rightfully worried about that).
The orange one put the full weirdness of the party on display, and there’s no going back. Lindsey Graham is a grifter but not an idiot, and he was prescient when he said “If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed… and we will deserve it.”
I’ve been thinking and wondering a lot of the same things. I do seriously wonder what will happen to the GOP after Trump’s demise (whether that’s his death or just he stops being able to command a following) will they just start running more normal politicians that kind of echo trump but aren’t completely disconnected from reality and will that be successful? Will they try to pivot to more sane people who run on a more 1980s style platform? If the GOP fails is it because of Trump or is it because they’ve been on the wrong side of history for too long and their base is simply dying out?
I wish I could believe this but too many of my family and friends have allowed themselves to be so badly propagandized by Fox and the like that they refuse to even consider voting for anyone but the christofascist death cult. They willingly suspend disbelief for their mindless satisfaction of “but I will never vote to be like California”, “socialism is evil”, etc. I believe they are irredeemable. Maybe I’m a bit too George Carlin nihilistic to think we survive this…or it allows me to cope.
The creator of the Lincoln Project is George Conway, (former) husband of Kellyanne Conway. (She famously was Trump’s senior counselor. If you follow politics at all, you’ll recognize her.) His daughter, Claudia Conway, briefly got famous for hating her Republican parents, although apparently she hates her mom a little bit more. Anyway, all I’m saying is it’s fine to laugh about this, maybe even cheer them on a little, but never trust them.
While the enemy of my enemy isn’t necessarily my friend, I’ll happily work alongside them in the right circumstances.
How many adversarial nations worked together to bring down Germany and Japan? There was no illusion that, following WWII, Russia and China would be buddies with the US.
The Lincoln Project thinks the most important thing for the future they want is to prevent Trump from being President again. I agree. While our preferred futures are wildly different, right now our interests align and I’ll go into battle with them in the full knowledge that the next war will be between me and them.
There was no illusion that, following WWII, Russia and China would be buddies with the US.
China was an American ally right up to 1949. Americans were pretty fond of China before and during WWII.
The Lincoln Project thinks the most important thing for the future they want is to prevent Trump from being President again. I agree.
I actually have a lot of respect for conservatives who remain loyal to America in the face of Trump’s profound disloyalty to America and our values. Those kind of people are our opponents, but not our enemies. It is the GOP’s neofascist movement that are the enemies of all loyal Americans, conservative or progressive.
China was an American ally right up to 1949. Americans were pretty fond of China before and during WWII.
Only some of China though. The US and the Republic of China are still pretty close. The US and the People’s Republic of China on the other hand… Part of the US’s demands for Japanese capitulation were that Japanese forces could not surrender to Mao’s army, but only Chiang Kai-shek.
although apparently she hates her mom a little bit more.
It’s a bunch of anti-union, billionaire/corporate toe suckers cosplaying as Lincoln as if they would do anything progressive.
I absolutely trust them, but I trust them to be self-interested and to do the wrong thing most of the time.
They also made a video reply as well:
Holy shit, they know how to speak to trump.
The catharsis is real!
This is your friendly reminder that The Lincoln Project is a conservative organization with a stated purpose of pushing liberal politicians further to the center. They are fattening you up for the kill; stay frosty out there.
“My enemy’s enemy is still my enemy; for now, though, they might be useful”
They’re embarrassed Dummy Donnie keeps letting the cat out of the bag.
Thank goodness for the Lincoln Project! Maybe the bully in chief will eventually come to realize he’s not in control here…
They’re still classical conservative, so I’m not the biggest fan, but their goal to get rid of Trump is amicable. If their brand of Conservatism was mainstream, we’d be a lot better off too.
I feel about the Lincoln Project how I feel about John McCain. I dislike their positions but I respect their convictions. They really believe their policies are what’s best for Americans as people. I disagree with them, but at least the conversation we’re having is fundamentally a conversation about what’s right and what’s wrong and what policies will result in a functioning society. Trump and his ilk meanwhile don’t give a shit. The conversation with them is primarily about whether or not it matters that society function
This is all just so mad.
All this money going into what’s essentially a psyop on a few people.
Trump/Kamala.
And the handful of voters in swing states who are somehow still thinking “Eh… I’m not sure about Trump or Kamala. I’m 50/50.”
Like, I wonder how many dollars goes to each of these people in advertising. They mind as well just pay them.
It’s not about convincing people one way or another. It’s about motivating people to go out and vote. That’s one thing Harris/Walz are dramatically better at than Biden/ Harris.
*Donald/Harris, put the respect where it’s deserved
I love that last bit, “we may need to stop being nice.” If this is how bad he takes it when they’re “nice”, then I absolutely want them to turn the pressure up to 11.
I know it’s a general rule of morality that one shouldn’t wish suffering on others, but God damnit I want trump and his acolytes to suffer the same pain they’ve inflicted on so many. In Trump’s case, if that amounts to nothing more than having his ego repeatedly bruised by media kidney punches like this, then so be it. For him, that’s on par with physical torture for the rest of us.
Personally, I look at it as “is my desire to see someone suffer significantly smaller than the suffering they intentionally caused?” And if the answer is “yes” I don’t have to feel bad for it.
Real world example: a close friend of mine’s biological mother was abusive to all of her kids in every definition of the term, and it sounds like she was no better of a wife, friend or relative. She died alone in her shitty trailer at the age of 50 after alienating all of her friends and family. There was no funeral, her obituary literally only stated that she existed and who she was related to. And it sounds like it took several hours for her to finally kick the bucket, plus multiple days to find the body. The suffering she endured was orders of magnitude less than the suffering she intentionally put others through, so I see no wrong in feeling happy with her fitting demise
I love how the ad is playing right into the typical mob boss paranoia he might be experiencing right now.
The lincoln project is definitely dangerous as hell (they are the fun conservatives and all that entails…) but I am definitely giddy at how much they are clearly breaking the orange piece of shit.
That said… there probably SHOULD be some kind of law against a PAC running a psy op to destroy a single person’s mind.
I’m having trouble imagining another politician that would react like this. Even with all of the people he’s enabled, and the mindset that’s become common, few even have the obsession needed to see these ads. Even fewer will see them frequently enough to react.
The closest man-child I can come up with would be Elon Musk, and even he’s (mostly) too busy to obsess over this kind of thing.
It is fun to say this only works because trump is weak. And… there is an argument that most candidates can’t be directly spoken to by playing an ad on fox news.
But just ask any youtuber or otherwise popular e-celebrity. When someone makes a hate video about you? That hits hard. I have a LOT of problems with John “TotalBiscuit” Bain’s actions and legacy but he hit the nail on the head with (paraphrasing): You might have no body image issues. But then someone says your nose is big. And that is going to stick with you all day.
And the ad that specifically triggered the C&D? That was straight up gaslighting. Not “I don’t like you” gaslighting but fucking with someone’s head to isolate them and make them think everyone is out to get them. And everyone is susceptible to that. Hell, we as consumers/watchers are susceptible to that.
Again, it is really hard for me to give a shit about anything that is done to a hateful insurrectionist rapist. But this also feels like the kind of thing we need to pass legislature to protect against like… next year.
The closest man-child I can come up with would be Elon Musk, and even he’s (mostly) too busy to obsess over this kind of thing
Au contraire. He’s as thin skinned as Drumpf. One of the main reasons he bought Twitter was to silence his critical there
Poor Wittle Guys https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qMryi67t3R8
CaN’t We ReTrVn To NoRmAl CoNsErVaTiVeS LiKe DuByA?
Fuck the Lincoln Project.
What is it?
Group of former republicans who are against trump
They’re actually current republicans who are against Trump.
Their anti-trump mission reflects my values, but their long-term goals don’t.
