• dhork@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It won’t be remembered as a blunder, because there was no circumstance where Biden would have won in November. Not after that debate.

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      2 months ago

      It is absolutely insane that Trump told lie after lie after lie in that debate and no one gave a shit. But Biden stumbled over a few words, and somehow that makes him incompetent to be president. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with American voters?

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        2 months ago

        Trump isn’t held to any standard. That’s the thing. No one has any great expectations of Trump. His campaign should have been over when he mocked a reporter’s disability, but it wasn’t.

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          That’s just it. Democrats are expected to be perfect; if the cons fuck up, lie, commit crime, even attempt a coup, it gets a collective shrug and a “boys will be boys” kind of attitude, even if it’s girls like Empty G.

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        Trump lies? Why didn’t anyone say something about that??? /s I don’t think many people will vote Trump over Biden based on the debate. But I can understand everyone that won’t vote Biden (thus not vote at all) based on that debate.

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        As others have said, Trump did what we expected him to do: lie. We expected/hoped Biden to quell the critics, and he did the opposite of it.

        But make no mistake about it, plenty of people pointed out that Trump lied during the debate. The problem is that his cultists think that if he says it, it’s true, or complaining that his lies aren’t that big so it’s not a big deal. Truth and honesty doesn’t matter to them anymore. Although, I feel like truth mattering to people is dying across the board.

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        2 months ago

        That’s on people on the left more than anything. The terminally online left read while terminally online right write.

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        That’s the dumb narrative. It’s clear that if donnie even ever had any brain cells, he’s in decline. But yeah, BidenSoOld and he did freeze up, so all the lies, fascist intent, and incoherency on donnie’s side is ignored by the bothsiderist “liberal media”.

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      Yeah. Tbh I dislike Harris 10x more than Biden but I know she’ll actually be able to stand up to Trump at the next debate. There was never any amount of prep the Biden team could’ve given to Joe that would’ve helped him in September. It’s for the best, but things just got a lot less predictable now.

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        Have you not been paying attention? Every time Biden goes up to speak, he makes a fool of himself. At the debate he was mumbling and staring blankly into space with his mouth open. He then did an interview afterwards to try and calm the mood that only make it worse. Then he showed up to the NATO summit and introduced Zelensky as Vladmir Putin. He called Trump the vice president.

        All in the course of a couple of weeks. Biden simply isn’t all there. His polling numbers were on a downward trend and the key problem is that concerns about his age and mental capacity can only get worse with time. It will never get better.

        There was no other option but to change Biden. Everybody knew this after the debate. I think it took so long for him to drop out because they didn’t know who to replace him with. Kamala isn’t pilling any better and in some places worse.

        But it seems the DNC has done their research and figured Kamala is the best chance they’re gonna get. Which I think is a grim omen for the near future.